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Where and how exactly Toronto lost last night’s game at Utah

Thursday, November 19th, 2009

Toronto Raptors 91
UTAH JAZZ 104
Wed Nov 18 2009 - Game Scoreboard

At the 9:20 mark of the 4th quarter this was a 2 possession game with the Jazz leading, 83-79. 

If you look at the Full-Play-By-Play for the next 5 minutes and 20 seconds, what you should be able to see during this sequence is that:

Toronto had 14 offensive possessions.
Utah had 11 offensive possessions.

Toronto committed 3 Turnovers.
Utah commited just 1 Turnover.

Toronto took 9 shots outside of the lane [and made only 1].
Utah took 0 shots outside of the lane.

Toronto scored just 3 points [1/3FG].
Utah scored 12 points [4 FTs; 4/2FGs].

If you then watch the game-tape closely … specifically … this is how each of the offensive possessions for the Raptors and Jazz actually broke down:

TORONTO RAPTORS

UTAH JAZZ

Jack

Belinelli

Turkoglu

Johnson

Bargnani

 

Maynor

Williams

Kirilenko

Millsap

Boozer

Time

#

Play Action

Outcome

Play Action

#

9:20

 

 

Maynor, DLU, make [vs Jack, contested], 85-79

1, Wing entry pass to 2; 1, UCLA cut; 2-5 Wing Pick with weak side Staggered Screens; Split dribble; Kick-out Pass to 1 [right Wing]; 1, Driving Layup

1

 

1

4 & 5 Double High Picks for 1; 1, Kick-out Pass to 2 [weak side Corner]

Belinelli, J3, miss

[vs Williams, in rotation; open]

 

 

 

 

 

Williams/Kirilenko, TO-1 [Bad pass]

2, Wing iso; 3, weak side flash cut middle; 2 Pass to 3

2

8:33

 

 

Official Time-out

 

 

Calderon

Jack

Belinelli

Johnson

Bargnani

 

Maynor

Williams

Brewer

Kirilenko

Millsap

 

2

1-5 Wing Pick & Roll, Pass Across to 4; 4, Pass to 5; Pass deflected by X4; 5 tied up for jump-ball; 5 losses jump-ball

Bargnani, TO-1

 

 

 

 

 

Brewer, LU, miss [vs Belinelli, open]

2, Wing entry pass to 1; 2 UCLA cut; 1-5 Wing Pick with weak side Staggered Screens; 5, Slip the Pick with weak side Tornado [3 flash cut to middle & 2 pop out]; 1, Pass to 5; 5, Pass to 3

3

 

3

2-4 Wing Pick & Roll; 2, Drive middle; 2 Kick-out Pass to 1 [right Corner]; 1, Pass to 2

Jack, J3, miss [vs Brewer, in rotation; open]

 

 

 

4

5, weak side flash cut middle; fouled by Kirilenko; 1-4 High middle Pick & Roll; 1, Drive middle

Calderon, PUJ, miss [vs Williams, open]

 

 

7:23

 

 

Maynor, TAJ [middle], fouled [Bargnani]; FT, make, 86-79; FT, make, 87-79

2, Wing entry pass to 3; 2 UCLA cut; 3-5 Wing Pick with weak side Staggered Screens; 5, Step-out; 3 Pass to 5; weak side Tornado [1 flash cut to middle & 2 pop out]; 5, Pass to 1 [right Block]

4

Calderon

Belinelli

Turkoglu

Bosh

Bargnani

 

Maynor

Williams

Kirilenko

Millsap

Boozer

 

5

3-4 High Middle Pick & Roll; 3, Pass to 4 [weak side Top]; 4, Pass to 1 [left Corner]

Calderon, J3, miss [vs Boozer, in rotation; open]

 

 

 

 

 

Boozer, JHS, miss [vs Bosh, contested]

1, in transition, Pass to 5 [Front rim]

5

 

 

 

Kirilenko, DLU, miss [vs Calderon; contested by Bargnani]

Scramble; 3, Drive middle

6

 

6

1, in transition, Pass to 5; 5, shot fake, drive right; fouled [Millsap]; 3-4 High Pick & Roll; 3, Pass to 4 [weak side Top]

Bargnani, J3, miss [vs Millsap; open]

 

 

 

7

4, left Block isolation

Bosh, J2, miss [vs Boozer, contested]

 

 

 

8

Scramble; 2, Drive middle

Belinelli, DLU, miss [open]

 

 

 

9

3-4 High Wing Pick & Roll; 3, Drive middle

Turkoglu, TO-2 [stripped by Kirilenko]

 

 

 

 

 

Maynor, DLU, make [uncontested run-out], 89-79

5, Pass to 2; 2, in transition, Pass to 1

7

 

10

1-4 High Middle Pick, in transition

Calderon, PUJ2, miss [vs Maynor; open]

 

 

 

 

 

 

2, drive in transition; fouled [Calderon];

8

5:50

 

 

Time-out

Regular

 

 

 

 

Maynor, JHS, make [vs Calderon, contested], 91-79

2, Wing entry pass to 1; 2, UCLA cut; 1-5 Wing Pick with weak side Staggered Screens; 5, Slip Pick; 1 Pass to 5; 5 Kick-out Pass to 2 [weak side Wing]; 5, flash cut middle; 1, Pass to 5; 5, Kick-out Pass to 4 [right Wing/Corner]; 4, Pass to 2; ball deflected out-of-bounds; 1, curl cut to basket [Stack formation]; 3, in-bounds Pass to 1 [weak side block]; 1, mid-post isolation

 

 

11

4, low-post isolation [right Block]; Kick-out Pass to 1; 4, re-post; 1, Pass to 4

Bosh, TAJ2, miss [vs Millsap, contested]

 

 

 

 

 

Kirilenko, J2, make [vs Bosh, uncontested], 93-79

2, middle drive in transition; Kick-out Pass to 3 [FT line]

9

 

12

2-5 High Wing Pick & Pop; 2, drive middle

Belinelli, DLU, miss [vs Boozer & Millsap, contested]

 

 

 

 

 

Kirilenko, FT, make, 94-79; FT, make, 95-79

2, in transition, Pass Ahead to 3 [vs Turkoglu]; 3, fouled [Bosh]

10

 

13

3-4 High Middle Pick & Roll; 3, drive right; fouled [Kirilenko]; 4, in-bounds Pass to 5 [top]; 5, Pass across to 3; 1, Back Screen for 4; 4, flash cut to middle; 3, Pass to 2 [left FT line extended]; 2, Pass to 4 [left Mid-post]; 5, flash cut to front rim; 4, Pass to 5

Bargnani, TO-3 [stripped by Boozer]

 

 

 

 

 

Boozer, DLU, miss [vs Bosh, in rotation, contested]

1, dribble into left Wing; 2, shallow cut to Top; 2, UCLA cut; 5, Wing Pick with weak side Staggered Screens; 5, Slip Pick; 1, Pass to 5

11

4:00

14

3-4 High Middle Pick, in transition; 3, drive middle; 3, Kick-out Pass to 1 [right Top]

Calderon, J3, make [vs Maynor, uncontested], 95-82

 

 

What you should then be able to see is:

A. Just how ineffective the Raptors were with their ”High Middle/High Wing/Wing Pick” Series;

vs

B. Just how effective the Jazz were using their “UCLA Cut” Series and ”Transition Attack”;

in terms of generating high percentage shot attempts, in the lane, or from the free throw line … none of which should come as much of a surprise, at least, to those of you who paid attention to what was first written here on Sep 18 2009:

Thumb-down 35 special … for the Raptors

The fact is …

Not only is the Raptors’ defense performing in a poor way, thus far this season, but … when crunch time arrives in important games vs a Quality Opponent [.500+], or in last night’s case, vs an opponent that is particularly well-schooled in its own highly potent offensive and defensive [i.e. with designated helps and specific rotations] systems … so, too, is their offense, which is based primarily on the 3-5 Pick & Roll/Pop action.

Executing well, offensively, in the NBA isn’t just about “making the open shots your players happen to get” but, also … and, more importantly … “getting the specific type of open shots which your players can make on a consistent basis.” 

There’s a big difference between these two types of shot attempts. :-)

Raptors over-matched vs Nuggets

Wednesday, November 18th, 2009

Toronto Raptors 112
DENVER NUGGETS 130
Tue Nov 17 2009 - Game Scoreboard

With both Hedo Turkoglu [SF, 6-10, 220] and Reggie Evans [PF, 6-8, 245] out of the line-up, the Raptors were “physically” over-matched vs the Nuggets in last night’s game.

ASSESSING INDIVIDUAL MATCH-UPS BASED ON SIZE, STRENGTH, AGILITY AND EXPLOSIVE QUICKNESS

Defensively, from Denver’s perspective

Nene * [6-11, 250, i.e. size and agility] is a terrific check vs Chris Bosh [6-10, 230], anytime that CB4 does not step-off from the block. 

Kenyon Martin * [6-9, 240, i.e. size, strength, agility and explosive quickness] is a terrific check vs Andrea Bargnani [7-0, 250]. Period.

The combination of Nene and K-Mart is a terrific pairing vs CB4 and Bargnani … since: [i] Andrea is a perimeter Center who cannot take Kenyon into the low-post to do damage, and [ii] whenever CB4 steps out to the perimeter it then leaves Toronto with ZERO low-post game.

Chris Andersen * [6-10, 228, i.e. agility and explosive quickness] is a terrific check vs either [a] Amir Johnson * [6-9, 210] or [b] Rasho Nesterovic [7-0, 255.

Arron Afflalo * [6-5, 215, i.e. strength and agility] is a solid check vs DeMar DeRozan * [6-7, 220].

Defensively, from Toronto’s Perspective

Carmelo Anthony * [6-8, 230, i.e. size, strength and agility] is a nightmare for the Raptors. Period.

Chauncey Billups * [6-3, 202, i.e. strength] is a difficult check for the Raptors. Period.

JR [Earl] Smith * [6-6, 220] i.e. expolosive quickness] is a difficult check for the Raptors, when they try to go with Marco Belinelli [6-5, 200, i.e. less strength and less quickness; more offensive skill] instead of Sonny Weems * [6-6, 203, i.e. as much strength and quickness; less offensive skill].

Ty Lawson * [5-11, 195, i.e. quickness] is a difficult check for the Raptors. Period.

Physically, Denver is a superior team to Toronto and simply worn down the Raptors’ best players in the 2nd [36-35/+1], 3rd [33-25/+8] and 4th [33-23/+10] quarters.

There’s no magic answer when these two teams play.

Last night:

Denver generated 105 offensive possessions [with just 3 O-Rebs].
Toronto generated 117 offensive possessions [with 19 O-Rebs].

Denver shot 61.5 [FG%].
Toronto shot 46.2 [FG%].

Denver generated 68 points in the paint.
Toronto generated 34 points in the paint.

Denver scored points at a rate of 1.238 per possession.
Toronto scored points at a rate of 0.957 per possession.

When a team like Toronto [which scores alot of points per game and yields alot of points per game, in return] plays a team like Denver [which scores alot of points per game and yields alot of points per game, in return ... but, also has physically gifted players [*] at several positions] then Toronto is going to end up on the short end of the scoreboard a majority of the time.

When Toronto has faced a Quality Opponent [.500+] this season which has not:

i. Been in the 2nd half of a back-2-back; or,
ii. Made the mistake of playing their 2 hulking centers together vs the combo of Bosh and Bargnani;

the Dinos have performed in the following way:

Game

Opp.

W-L

Result

Rec

PG

PA

PS/Poss.

PA/Poss.

3

vs Orl

8-3

L, 116-125

0-1

103

109

1.126

1.147

6

@ DAL

8-3

L, 101-129

0-2

108

102

0.935

1.265

10

@ PHO

10-2

L, 100-101

0-3

105

105

0.953

0.962

11

@ DEN

8-3

L, 112-130

0-4

105

105

0.957

1.238

Legend:

Opp. – Opponent; W-L – Opponent’s Won-Lost record; Rec – Team’s Won-Lost record; PG – Possessions Generated; PA – Possessions Allowed; PS/Poss. – Points scored per possession; PA/Poss. – Points allowed per possession.
Possession [Poss.] = Field Goal Attempts + Total Turnovers + [FTA * .44] 

In general, teams that surrender more than 1.0 points per possession, vs a specific set of opponents, while scoring fewer than 1.0 points per possession themselves, have too many players who are “physically” inferior to their individual counterparts when matched-up with those teams.

Initial thoughts on the Raptors talent base compared with the previous 3 seasons

Monday, August 24th, 2009

Matching-up the Raptors’ current roster with the end-of-season version for the 2008-2009 campaign, on a position-by-position basis, looks like this:

#

Pos

2008-2009

33-49/.402

Adv

2009-2010

?/?

Assessment

 

1

PG

Calderon

à

Calderon

Injury-free = improved.

2

OG

Parker

ß

DeRozan

Solid vet > NCAA rookie.

3

SF

Marion

ß

Turkoglu

Better overall player.

4

PF

Bosh

=

Bosh

Perennial All-Star.

5

C

Bargnani

=

Bargnani

Same. *Wildcard*.

 

6

PG

Ukic

à

Jack

Stable. Better shooter.

7

OG

Kapono

à

Belinelli

Better scorer. Versatile.

8

SF

Graham

=

Wright

Medium-grade players.

9

PF

M-Bonsu

=

Evans

Energetic rebounder.

10

C

O’Bryant

à

Nesterovic

Significant upgrade.

 

11

PG

Banks

=

Banks

Same.

12

OG

Douby

=

Douby

Same.

13

PF

Jawai

=

Weems [SF]

Different not better.

14

PF

Humphries

=

Johnson

Different. Similar.

15

C

Voskuhl

=

O’Bryant

Will to improve?

SUMMARY:

- 2 players better from 2008-2009 [Darkest shade]
- 4 players better from 2009-2010 [Darker shade]

- 10 players relatively equal

- EDGE to 2009-2010

While it’s relatively easy to see how other NBA observers can feel that the Raptors have increased their Perceived Talent Level [PTL] by a substantial amount this off season, when a comparative eye is then cast further backwards, to the previous year [2007-2008]:

#

Pos

2007-2008

41-41/.500

Adv

2009-2010

?/?

Assessment

 

1

PG

Ford

à

Calderon

Injury-free = improved.

2

OG

Parker

ß

DeRozan

Solid vet > Rookie.

3

SF

Moon

à

Turkoglu

More consistent.

4

PF

Bosh

=

Bosh

Perennial All-Star.

5

C

Bargnani

=

Bargnani

Same. *Wildcard*.

 

6

PG

Calderon

=

Jack

Similar value; diff skills.

7

OG

Delfino

=

Belinelli

Similar value; diff skills.

8

SF

Kapono

=

Wright

Similar value; diff skills.

9

PF

Humphries

=

Evans

Energetic rebounder.

10

C

Nesterovic

=

Nesterovic

Same; older now.

 

11

PG

Martin

ß

Banks

Solid vet. Accepted role.

12

OG

Dixon

=

Douby

Similar value; diff skills.

13

SF

Johnson-L

=

Weems

Low grade players.

14

PF

Baston

à

Johnson-A

Upside. Under-used.

15

C

Brezec

=

O’Bryant

Will to improve?

SUMMARY:

- 2 players better from 2007-2008 [Darkest shade]
- 3 players better from 2009-2010 [Darker shade]

- 10 players relatively equal

- SLIGHT EDGE to 2009-2010

and, ultimately, to the watershed 2006-2007 season: 

#

Pos

2006-2007

47-35/.573

Adv

2009-2010

?/?

Assessment

 

1

PG

Ford

=

Calderon

Similar value, diff skills.

2

OG

Parker

ß

DeRozan

Euro star > Experience.

3

SF

Peterson

à

Turkoglu

More consistent player.

4

PF

Garbajosa

=

Bosh

Versatile Euro player.

5

C

Bosh

ß

Bargnani

All-Star > highly erratic.

 

6

PG

Calderon

=

Jack

Similar value; diff skills.

7

OG

Graham

à

Belinelli

More value; better skills.

8

SF

Bargnani

ß

Wright

More value; better skills.

9

PF

Humphries

=

Evans

Energetic rebounder.

10

C

Nesterovic

=

Nesterovic

Same. Older now.

 

11

PG

Martin

ß

Banks

Solid vet. Accepted role.

12

OG

Dixon

=

Douby

Similar value; diff skills.

13

SF

Jackson

=

Weems 

Low grade players.

14

PF

Sow

à

Johnson-A

Upside. Under-used.

15

C

Slokar

=

O’Bryant

Different not better.

SUMMARY:

- 4 players better from 2006-2007 [Darkest shade]
- 3 players better from 2008-2009 [Darker shade]

- 8 players relatively equal

- SLIGHT EDGE to 2006-2007

the picture produced is somewhat different.

Reviewing ALL 3 of these comparisons, at-once, it would be more accurate to say that the current roster has:

MORE talent than the 2008-2009 version [33 wins];

* SLIGHTLY MORE talent than the 2007-2008 version [41 wins]; and,

* SLIGHTLY LESS talent than the 2006-2007 version [47 wins].

When three birds of a different feather flock together, it’s a poor omen for the Raptors

Tuesday, July 14th, 2009

An accurate understanding of what exactly is going on these days in Raptorville is not arrived at easily for many of the team’s rabid fans who are active participants in the on-line hoops community. Amidst the general euphoria that has taken hold in the aftermath of last week’s seemingly stunning 4-team trade extravaganza with Dallas, Orlando and Memphis … which netted the Raptors:

* Hedo Turkoglu [F, Orlando, UFA]
* Antoine Wright [G-F, Dallas, expiring contract this coming season]
* Devean George [G-F, Dallas, expiring contract this coming season], and
* Preserved their right to use the Mid Level Exception [MLE], the Low Level Exception [LLE], and exercise their [Larry] Bird Rights towards resigning their own Unrestricted Free Agents [UFA]

at the expense of:

* Shawn Marion [Sign & Trade with Orlando, UFA]
* Kris Humphries [trade with Dallas; injured much of last season]
* Nathan Jawai [trade with Dallas; disabled much of last season]
* 2nd Round Draft Pick/2016 [trade with Dallas]
* Cash Considerations [trade with Dallas] 

The stark reality of this team’s current situation is perhaps best reflected in the bright lights of the following 5 observations:

PART ONE
The post-trade outlook for the Raptors which was first put together by “Dave” [nbaroundtable, Thu July 9], extolling the possible virtues:

Where do the Raptors go from here?

PART TWO
The specific comment which “Dave” then left in a different thread on his blog, later that same afternoon, indicating his actual thoughts on their chances to succeed with their current roster configuration:

———-

Four team trade: Shawn Marion to Dallas
2011/12

This is the Raptors fail safe option. When they fail, and they will fail, they need to have this option open to them and then use this option.

This means no extra contracts that last beyond two years. I will dislike pretty much any contract that goes beyond two seasons. As long as the contract is than two seasons, spending that money doesn’t bother me in the slightest.

Dead End

The Raptors are going nowhere, and they need a miracle to happen for this plan to have any chance of working out. The Raptors are going to run into [sic] dead end.

Now, it’s time just to sit back and let things play out. Things will not improve until Colangelo figures out Bargnani isn’t a cornerstone of this franchise … until that happens, there’s nothing else that can be done to put the Raptors on the right road.

The Raptors can’t get out of the corner that they’ve boxed themselves into, until Bargnani is moved on. Any aspirations for a title are on hold until this happens.

———-  

PART THREE
The specific comment which was made on this blog [July 11, 11:35 AM], by yours truly, that addressed the supposed “Qualitative Improvement” of the Raptors current roster pieces in comparison with last season’s end-of-year squad, pertaining to the question of:

———-

Which team made out best from 4-team trade?
IMO, the Raptors have made upgrades in certain areas thus far but it would be a mistake in judgment to assess this improvement as being “a lot better“, just yet:

No BEFORE ADV AFTER

1 Calderon = Calderon
2 Parker <– Wright … AP is significantly better
3 Marion = Turkoglu … Turkoglu is NOT significantly better
4 Bosh = Bosh
5 Bargnani = Bargnani
—————————-
6 Ukic = Ukic
7 Kapono –> DeRozan * … cyclical due to draft
8 Graham = George … Devean is NOT significantly better
9 Humphries = Evans … Reggie is NOT significantly better
10 O’Bryant –> Nesterovic … Rasho is much better!
—————————-
11 Douby = Delfino … is different but NOT much better
12 Mensah-Bonsu = Mensah-Bonsu
—————————-
13 Banks = Banks
14 Jawai ? Barnes … jury still out on Nathan
15 Voskuhl = O’Bryant

Those who are looking at these changes in an excessively positive light are the ones looking through rose-coloured spectacles.

———-

PART FOUR
The Shifting Player Personnel Chart that was constructed by yours truly yesterday:

 

TORONTO RAPTORS ROSTERS

2007-2008 vs 2008-2009 vs 2009-2010

 

 

No

 

2007-2008

END

2008-2009

 

2009-2010

START

Mitchell

Triano

1

Triano

2

1

2

3

4

5

Ford

Parker

Delfino

Moon

Bosh

Calderon

Parker

Moon

Bosh

O’Neal T

Calderon

Parker

Moon

Bosh

O’Neal

Calderon

Parker U

Marion T, U

Bosh

Bargnani

Calderon

Wright T, E

Turkoglu T

Bosh

Bargnani

6

7

8

9

10

Calderon

Kapono

Graham

Humphries

Bargnani

Solomon U

Kapono

Graham

Humphries
Bargnani

Solomon

Kapono

Graham

Humphries
Bargnani

Ukic

Kapono

Graham U

Humphries X

O’Bryant T

Jack R *

DeRozan Y1

George T, E

Evans T

Nesterovic U *

11

12

Dixon

Nesterovic

Ukic Y1

Adams U

Ukic

Adams

Douby T, U

Voskuhl U

Delfino R *
O’Bryant

13

14

15

Martin

Brezec

Baston

Jawai Y1

Jawai

Banks T

M-Bonsu U

Jawai

Banks

M-Bonsu R *
Ukic

16

Garbajosa @

 

 

Delfino R @

Douby

W/L

41-41/.500

8-9/.471

13-25/.342

12-15/.444

?/?

Legend:

X – Injured; Y1 – Rookie; R – Restricted Free Agent; U – Unrestricted Free Agent; @ - Not on active roster; W/L – Won-Lost record; Mitchell – Up to Dec 3, 2008; Triano1 – Before Shawn Marion trade; Triano2 – After Shawn Marion trade; T – Acquired via trade; E – Expiring contract this coming season; * - Expected to sign soon as Free Agent

 

which shows the drastic player changes that have happened with the Raptors for each of the past two seasons. 

PART FIVE
The glaring RED ALERT that was issued on Sunday by David Berri [i.e. noted economist, NBA "sage & soothsayer", author of The Wages of Wins Journal]:

Dashing Hope in Toronto
Not a Pretty Picture in Toronto

When we put the whole picture together, it appears the Raptors will employ the following starting line-up in 2009-10: Calderon (PG), Wright and/or DeRozan (SG), Turkoglu (SF), Bosh (PF), Bargnani [C].  Last season the NBA veterans in this line-up combined to produce fewer than 30 wins. So unless these players improve dramatically, or the team finds very productive players off the bench, it’s hard to see how this team improves dramatically.  And that’s true even if Delfino returns to Toronto (although if Evans returns to what we saw in the past there might be some hope this team can get past 40 wins).

All of this means that

  1. Turkoglu will be seeing much more money in 2009-10, but probably far fewer wins.
  2. Bargnani will also see much more money, but it seems unlikely he is ever going to produce many wins.
  3. Bosh will see even more money after this next season, but if the Raptors don’t approach 45 or 50 wins (which seems likely) then it seems unlikely that the money Bosh is paid in the future is going to be paid by the Raptors.
  4. So it looks likely the Raptors record performance in 2007-08 will stand for awhile.  In other words, if Bosh departs this team in 2010, then rebuilding will probably continue beyond 2009-10.
  5. And this means — assuming the Raptors don’t make any major change to this team — the fans of the Raptors will keep paying money to see a team that’s not contending for a title.

———-

Experience says that when disparate individuals like:

1. “Dave” [nbaroundtable] … who combines statistics with Basketball Acumen;

2. khandor [that's me :-) ] … who relies primarily on Basketball Acumen;

and,

3. David Berri … who relies heavily on a statistical approach to the analysis of on-court production for players in the NBA;

actually arrive at a similar conclusion … which is essentially opposed to the GENERAL CONSENSUS that exists in Raptorville today … it portends of difficult times ahead for this team in the coming season.

In the best interests of the franchise, let’s hope that all three of these “stray birds” are eventually proven to be wrong in their assessment of the team. 

 

Which franchise made out best from 4 team trade?

Friday, July 10th, 2009

Prior to the recent transaction between the Raptors [Bryan Colangelo], Mavericks [Donnie Nelson], Magic [Otis Smith & Dave Twardzik] and Grizzlies [Chris Wallace], this is what each of those team’s rosters looked like:

 

ROSTERS BEFORE 4-TEAM TRADE

 

No

RAPTORS

MAVERICKS

MAGIC

GRIZZLIES

1

2

3

4

5

Calderon

Parker–UFA

Marion–UFA

Bosh

Bargnani

Kidd

Wright

Howard

Nowitzki

Dampier

Nelson

Carter

Turkoglu–UFA

Lewis

Howard

Conley

Mayo

Gay

Warrick–RFA

Gasol

6

7

8

9

10

Ukic

Douby
DeRozan–R

Evans

O’Bryant

Barea

Terry

George

Bass–UFA

Hollins–RFA

Johnson

Redick

Pietrus

Anderson

Gortat–RFA

Jaric

Richardson

Young–R

Arthur

Thabeet–R

11

12

Banks

Humphries

Carroll

Singleton–UFA

Richardson–RFA

Miles

Haddadi

13

14

15

16

17

Delfino–RFA

Jawai

M-Bonsu–RFA

Beaubois–R

Ross

Williams

Nivins–R

Stackhouse

 

Carroll–R

 

TPE

Adams $0.7 M

Kapono $1.1 M

Moon $0.7 M

Solomon $0.7 M

 

Dooling $2.0 M

Wilks $0.8 M

 

 

Coming out the other side, today, this is what they look like now, respectively:

 

 

ROSTERS AFTER 4-TEAM TRADE

 

No

RAPTORS

MAVERICKS

MAGIC

GRIZZLIES

1

2

3

4

5

Calderon

Wright

Turkoglu

Bosh

Bargnani

Kidd

Howard

Marion

Nowitzki

Dampier

Nelson

Carter

Pietrus

Lewis

Howard

Conley

Mayo

Gay

Warrick–RFA

Gasol

6

7

8

9

10

Ukic

DeRozan–R

George

Evans

O’Bryant

Barea

Terry

Ross

Bass–UFA

Hollins–RFA

Johnson

Redick

Richardson–RFA

Anderson

Gortat–RFA

Jaric

Richardson

Young–R

Arthur

Thabeet–R

11

12

Banks

Delfino–RFA

Carroll

Singleton–UFA

 

Miles

Haddadi

13

14

15

M-Bonsu–RFA

 

Beaubois–R

Williams

Humphries

 

Carroll–R

16

17

 

Nivins–R

Jawai

 

 

TPE

Adams $0.7 M

Kapono $1.1 M

Moon $0.7 M

Solomon $0.7 M

 

Dooling $2.0 M

Wilks $0.8 M
Turkoglu $7.0 M

 

DP

 

 

 

2nd Rounder,

Tor/2016

CC

 

 

 

From Dallas

From Toronto


Legend:
UFA - Unrestricted Free Agent; RFA - Restricted Free Agent; R - Rookie Player; TPE - Traded Player Exception; DP - Draft Pick; CC - Cash Considerations

 

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The Perspective From This Corner

 

IMPROVEMENT TO ROSTER SITUATION

 

TEAM

MINUS

ADD

NET GAIN

MAVERICKS

Wright

George

Stackhouse

Marion

Buckner

Humphries

Jawai

Substantial improvement. i.e. Marion is the best overall player in the deal [+]. Period. Humphries is a serviceable Big [+]. Jawai is a reserve [0]. Buckner will be cut. Stackhouse was inactive. George was a reserve. Wright was a pseudo-Starter only.

RESULT: ++ Gain

MAGIC

Turkoglu

TPE $7.0-to-10.0 M

Zero immediate improvement, i.e. Add Carter; Lose Turkoglu [0] … BUT with a gigantic CAVEAT. Now have $7.0-to-10.0 M worth of TPE’s [+], should they be in contention for a championship this coming season, in an effort to push them over the final hurdle. A Commitment To Winning It All.

RESULT: 0|+ Gain

RAPTORS

Parker

Marion

Humphries

Jawai

Wright

Turkoglu

George

Marginal improvement, only. i.e. Parker is a better player than Wright [-]. Turkoglu is a better clutch player than Marion [+], but Marion is a better player overall and a lot more athletic [-]. George and Humphries are even.

Turkoglu commitment provides stability at #3/SF [+]

RESULT: >> 0 Gain

GRIZZLIES

Buckner

CC [?]

Almost Zero improvement. CC plus a 2nd Round Draft Pick way, way off in the distance.

RESULT: > 0 Gain

 

The fact is, however, that the Cleveland Cavaliers [Danny Ferry] MAY have benefitted most of all from this specific transaction, as they subsequently gained unfettered access to Anthony Parker, the exact sort of complementary wing player they were searching for … to augment LeBron James & Co., in an effort to win their 1st NBA Championship. 

Your feedback is welcome in the “Comments” section. :-)

Raptors’ best possible line-up, as of June 30, 2009

Tuesday, June 30th, 2009

While some might enjoy the endless speculation about which free agents might be interested in what teams, and vice versa, prior to July 1 [the start date to the annual Free Agency feeding frenzy in the NBA], yours truly prefers to take a different approach.

At 12:01 AM of the big “first day”, here is what this corner sees as the most effective 12-man line-up for the Raptors, if the 2009-2010 regualar season was to begin play today:

Option One - Conventional NBA Line-up

STARTERS
1 Jose Calderon [guaranteed contract]
Anthony Parker [unrestricted]
Shawn Marion [unrestricted]
4 Chris Bosh [guaranteed contract]
5 Andrea Bargnani [guaranteed contract]

KEY SUBS
6 Roko Ukic [guaranteed contract]
7 DeMar DeRozan [guaranteed contract] *
8 Carlos Delfino [qualifying offer extended]
9 Reggie Evans [guaranteed contract]

EXTRAS
10 Marcus Banks [guaranteed contract]
11 Quincy Douby [guaranteed contract]
12 Pops Mensah-Bonsu [qualifying offer extended]
13 Kris Humphries [guaranteed contract]
14 Nathan Jawai [guaranteed contract]
15 Patrick O’Bryant [guaranteed contract]

Option Two - khandor’s Preferred Line-up 

STARTERS
1 Jose Calderon [guaranteed contract]
Anthony Parker [unrestricted]
Carlos Delfino [qualifying offer extended]
4 Marion [unrestricted]
5 Bosh [guaranteed contract]

KEY SUBS
6 Roko Ukic [guaranteed contract]
7 DeMar DeRozan [guaranteed contract] *
8 Reggie Evans [guaranteed contract]
9 Andrea Bargnani [guaranteed contract] *

EXTRAS
10 Marcus Banks [guaranteed contract]
11 Quincy Douby [guaranteed contract]
12 Pops Mensah-Bonsu [qualifying offer extended]
13 Kris Humphries [guaranteed contract]
14 Nathan Jawai [guaranteed contract]
15 Patrick O’Bryant [guaranteed contract]

[Legend: * - Scorer off the bench]

Factors to be considered, re: Option Two

No. 9 [overall] 1st Round Draft Picks that come into the NBA after playing only 1 season of NCAA D1 level basketball have no business as a Starting Player in the NBA.

Gradually introduce DeMar DeRozan to the rigors of the NBA game.

Shawn Marion is a natural #4/PF in the NBA.

Chris Bosh is a natural #5/Center in the NBA.

By bringing DeRozan and Bargnani off the bench, it provides the Raptors with a more balanced line-up overall and scoring prowess for their 2nd Unit.

Surrounding Bosh with four players like Calderon, Parker, Delfino, and Marion would allow the Raptors to play small [i.e. with multiple "shooters" on the floor], while emphasizing Pick & Roll/Pop basketball with CB4 and a multi-pronged “Drive & Kick” game.

Keep Bosh from becoming fatigued and/or incurring serious injuries by having him split time on the floor with Bargnani at the #5/C position [i.e. 28 MPG for Bosh; 20 MPG for Bargnani].

Limit Bosh & Bargnani’s individual defensive assignments to the opponent’s Best Big Man, leaving Marion to defend against their top #4/PF.

Limit the opportunities for Bargnani [Back-up Center] to be called for too many Personal Fouls.

Provide maximum Rebounding opportunities for Reggie Evans [Back-up PF].

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Now … it is going to be most interesting to see what the Raptors actual line-up will look like in the fall when the team breaks from Jay Triano’s first full training camp, as their new permanent head coach, with Bryan Colangelo set to start his 4th full year as their GM. 

 

Raptors fans: What would happen, if …

Wednesday, June 17th, 2009

PART I
Bryan Colangelo could succeed in re-signing Shawn Marion to a reasonable contract extension this summer?

PART II
Bryan Colangelo could trade down from the No. 9 position in the 2009 NBA Draft … in exchange for a lower 1st Round selection and an additional 2nd Round selection

PART III
Bryan Colangelo buys an additional pick in the lower section of the 1st Round [i.e. $3.0 M acquired in the trade with Miami this past season].

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Here might be one plausible scenario for other Raptors fans to consider:

With Chris Bosh [#1] they are set at the Starting C position [please envision him at 6-10, 250, once he reaches 27 years of age].
With Jose Calderon [#2] they are set at the Starting PG position.
With the combination of Shawn Marion [#3] & Reggie Evans [#8] they are set at the PF position.

With Anthony Parker [#6] they are set at the Back-up PG/OG position.
With Joey Graham [#7] they are set at the Back-up SF position.
With Andrea Bargnani [#9] they are set at the Back-up C position.

With Roko Ukic [#10] they are set at the Back-up-to-the-Back-up PG position.
With Carlos Delfino [#11] they are set at the Utility Guard-Wing position.
With Kris Humphries [#12] they are set at the Utility Big Man position.
With Marcus Banks [#13] they are set at the Extra Guard-Wing Position.
With Patrick O’Bryant [#15] they are set at the Back-up-to-the-Back-up C position.

#4 - the Starting SF position then gets filled by the traded down for 1st Round pick [e.g. Derrick Brown?].

#5 - the Starting OG position then gets filled by the additional 2nd Round pick acquired thru the trade down [e.g. Marcus Thornton or Nando De Colo?]

#14 -the Extra SF-PF position then gets filled by the bought 1st Round pick [e.g. Taj Gibson or Dante Cunningham?]

… in which case there might be no need to trade [A] Chris Bosh or [B] Andrea Bargnani this summer, with the following line-up:

STARTERS
Jose Calderon, PG
Marcus Thorton [or Nando De Colo], OG
Derrick Brown, SF
Shawn Marion, PF
Chris Bosh, C

KEY ROTATION SUBS
Anthony Parker, PG/OG
Joey Graham, SF [or Carlos Delfino, OG/SF]
Reggie Evans, PF
Andrea Bargnani, C

SITUATIONAL/EXTRA PLAYERS
Roko Ukic, PG
Marcus Banks, PG/OG
Carlos Delfino, OG/SF [or Joey Graham, SF]
Taj Gibson [or Dante Cunningham], SF-PF
Kris Humphries, PF/C
Patrick O’Bryant, C

Bold - New Athletic Young Player added via 2009 NBA Draft
Bolded Italics - New Veteran Player added via trade this off season
Italics - Existing Player shifted to a different role this season

heading into training camp for the 2009-2010 season … provided that Quincy Douby, Pops Mensah-Bonsu, Jake Voskuhl and Nathan Jawai are each given their release.

Could THAT team of 15 players eventually become a legitimate threat to contend for a Top 4 playoff spot in the Eastern Conference by the end of next season? … at which point Andrea Bargnani will be due to have his contract extended and Chris Bosh will be in a position to opt out of his existing contract, in a move toward unrestricted free agency.

Hmmmm ….

It just might.

Could a Bargnani trade benefit the Raptors?

Thursday, June 11th, 2009

There are some in Raptorville who take as sacrilege any and all discussion of a possible trade which involves Andrea Bargnani [7-0, 250, C, 4th-yr], the 2006 No. 1 [Overall] Draft Pick.

The main reasons for this are:

1. If Chris Bosh leaves the Raptors, via trade or Free Agency, who will be the team’s Franchise Player? Andrea Bargnani is seen as the best candidate to fulfil that specific role.

2. Andrea Bargnani has the “potential” to be a multi-dimensional “superstar” player in the NBA, once he finally gets his act together. Giving up on him, at this point of his career, would be “premature” and a serious mistake in judgment.

3. Andrea Bargnani … as a former No. 1 [Overall] Draft Pick, who has under-achieved to this point … is incapable of bearing the kind of fruit, on the open market, that can help transform the Raptors into a legitimate contending team … because no other GM would be stupid enough to acquire him in exchange for something of real worth/value to the Raptors.

Well … guess what?

Yours truly doesn’t buy this type of thinking for a minute.

* Knowing who the Raptors’ FOUNDATION player is [Jun 04, 2009]

* Five off-season moves for the Raptors which would have helped to address their Treadmill status [May 29, 2009]

Here is but one example of a straight-forward transaction which involves Andrea Bargnani, as a commodity worth trading for the Toronto Raptors:

Andrea Bargnani in exchange for Jeff Green + Kyle Weaver

Possible Considerations

I. If you’re Sam Presti, would you think seriously about acquiring a player with Bargnani’s developing skill set?

PG - Russell Westbrook
OG - Thabo Sefolosha
SF - Kevin Durant Durant
PF - Nick Collison
C - Andrea Bargnani

… to go with these 4 players on your current roster.

Hmmm …

II. If you’re Bryan Colangelo … once you’ve fully recovered from your self-induced mild heart attack, :-) … might you, too, be intrigued by the prospect of a line-up which could look like this:

STARTERS
#1. PG - Jose Calderon
#2. OG - Kyle Weaver
#3. SF - Mystery Player #1 [via Shawn Marion trade]
#4. PF - Jeff Green
#5. C - Chris Bosh [or whoever replaces him at $15.0 M/yr]

BENCH
#6. PG - Marcus Banks
#7. PG - Roko Ukic
#8. PG/OG - Anthony Parker [re-signed]
#9. 2009 1st Round Draft Pick [via trading down]
#10. 2009 1st Round Draft Pick [bought for $3.0 M from Miami]
#11. SF - Joey Graham [re-signed]
#12. 2009 2nd Round Draft Pick [via trading down]
#13. PF - Kris Humphries
#14. PF - Reggie Evans [via Jason Kapono trade, Amen!]
#15. Mystery Player #2 [via Shawn Marion trade]

Whether or not the Raptors can bounce back this coming season to qualify for a spot in the Eastern Conference playoffs and then re-sign Chris Bosh next summer [i.e. during his period of unrestricted Free Agency], a proposed trade like this one … made in conjunction with a co-ordinated series of personnel moves, designed to improve the team’s Quality Depth and increase their actual number of youngish, athletic assets … is a viable option for Toronto to consider, moving forward.

An upwardly mobile team … like THAT … is what the Raptors should be trying to build.

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Yes, Kapono had to go for the Raptors to improve, but …

Wednesday, June 10th, 2009

… given the specifics of this trade

and,

* Knowing who the Raptors’ FOUNDATION player is [Jun 04, 2009]

* Five off-season moves for the Raptors which would have helped to address their Treadmill status [May 29, 2009]

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1. Now is not the time to rejoice, in Raptorville; as,

2. Reggie Evans might not prove to be the “best fit” for their team; and, 

3. According to Bryan Colangelo [GM], We’re not done yet.”

The 76ers are one of three teams in the Atlantic Division that finished with a better Won-Lost Record than the Raptors [33-49/.402] this past season:

1. Boston Celtics, 62-20/.756
2. Philadelphia 76ers, 41-41/.500
3. New Jersey Nets, 34-48/.415

and, for all intents and purposes, give up nothing of value in this deal … given the list of Bigs which they have on their current roster; while adding a spot-up 3PT-shooter who they can use in limited minutes to stretch the defense and augment their more athletic slashing players.

PHILADELPHIA 76ERS

CURRENT PLAYER ROSTER OPTIONS

Guards

Wings

Bigs

Miller

Williams

Ivey

Iguodala

Green

Rush
Kapono

Young

Brand

Smith

Marshall

Dalembert

Ratliff

Speights

On the other hand, the Raptors now have a glut of players at their Big spots … including Bosh & Bargnani, their two most talented players … and remain relatively “unathletic” at the Wing position without a dynamic scorer who can consistently create his own shot:

TORONTO RAPTORS

CURRENT PLAYER ROSTER OPTIONS

Guards

Wings

Bigs

Calderon

Ukic

Banks

Parker
Marion

Delfino [?]

Graham

Douby

Bosh
Evans
Humphries
Mensah-Bonsu

Jawai

Bargnani
Voskuhl

O’Bryant

Nesterovic [?]

Depending on the OTHER moves which the Raptors decide to make this off-season, including who they select in the upcoming NBA Draft, time will tell if this trade is the first phase of an actual resurgence for their team, relative to the other squads in the Atlantic Division [and the Eastern Conference, in general], or not.

At this point, however, at least it’s a start down a better path.

Lack of Quality Depth is a major problem for the Raptors

Friday, May 29th, 2009

Understanding the demise of the Toronto Raptors, since the end of the 2006-2007 season to where the team stands today, means starting with a simple review of their personnel, Then vs Now:  

Then

47-35/.573
1st place, Atlantic Division
1st Round Playoff Loss
General Manager
- Bryan Colangelo
Head Coach - Sam Mitchell 
Main Players - TJ Ford/PG, Anthony Parker/OG, Morris Peterson/SF, Jorge Garbajosa/PF & Chris Bosh/C
Support Players - Jose Calderon, Darrick Martin, Juan Dixon, Joey Graham, Andrea Bargnani, Kris Humphries & Rasho Nesterovic,

Now

33-49/.402
4th place, Atlantic Division
Failed to qualify for the Playoffs
General Manager
- Bryan Colangelo
Head CoachJay Triano 
Main Players - Jose Calderon/PG, Anthony Parker/OG, Shawn Marion/SF, Chris Bosh/PF & Andrea Bargnani/C
Support PlayersRoko UkicMarcus Banks, Quincy Douby, Jason Kapono, Joey Graham, Pops Mensah-Bonsu, Kris Humphries, Nathan Jawai, Jake Voskuhl & Patrick O’Bryant

Italics - “New” Personnel

If you compare the two teams individual-by-individual, this is what you should be able to see:

Position

THEN

NOW

Comparison

General Manager

Bryan Colangelo

Bryan Colangelo

Comparable

Head Coach

Sam Mitchell

Jay Triano

Mitchell was better - Then

Point Guard
Off Guard
Small Forward

Power Forward

Center

TJ Ford
Anthony Parker

Morris Peterson

Jorge Garbajosa
Chris Bosh

Jose Calderon
Anthony Parker
Shawn Marion

Chris Bosh
Andrea Bargnani

Calderon is better - Now
Comparable

Comparable

Comparable [“Tough vs Good”]

Bosh was better - Then

Back-up PG
3rd String PG
Back-up OG
Back-up SF
Back-up PF
Back-up PF
Back-up C

Jose Calderon

Darrick Martin

Juan Dixon

Joey Graham

Andrea Bargnani

Kris Humphries

Rasho Nesterovic

Roko Ukic

Marcus Banks
Jason Kapono
Joey Graham

Pops Mensah-Bonsu

Kris Humphries

Patrick O’Bryant

Calderon was better - Then

Martin was better - Then
Comparable

Comparable
Bargnani was better - Then
Comparable
Nesterovic was better - Then

Extra Player A
Extra Player B
Extra Player C

Player 13

Player 14

Player 15

Quincy Douby

Nathan Jawai

Jake Voskuhl

No Comparison
No Comparison
No Comparison

 

 

Those who think that the current version of the Raptors is somehow lacking “Leadership” from Chris Bosh & Jose Calderon, or that CB4 is somehow NOT worthy of consideration as a legit “Franchise Player” in the NBA, or that El Matador is somehow “Too Conservative With The Ball & NOT Dynamic Enough”, as a main-frame PG, etc., to form The Core of a contending team in the Eastern Conference are displaying an overall lack of Basketball Acumen, when it comes to Understanding How Exactly the NBA Game Works.

Instead of BUILDING UP the remainder of the team’s personnel AROUND Chris Bosh [C] and Jose Calderon [PG], since the end of the 2006-2007 season, what Bryan Colangelo has done is DECREASED/LOWERED the actual Ability Level & Functionality of the other key pieces to the Raptors puzzle.

Until the Raptors re-stock their barren shelves with Additional Players to provide them with INCREASED Ability Level & Functionality, in terms of QALITY DEPTH, overall, they will remain a Treadmill Team, in the Salary Cap-driven NBA. 

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Q1. How many of the current Raptors would rank in the top half of all the players in the League at their respective positions?

A1. Excluding Chris Bosh [C] & Jose Calderon [PG] … very few, if any.