Comments on: Identifying correctly what actually lost last night’s game for the Raptors http://khandorssportsblog.com/wordpress/2011/01/13/identifying-correctly-what-actually-lost-last-nights-game-for-the-raptors/ Wed, 02 May 2012 00:48:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: khandor http://khandorssportsblog.com/wordpress/2011/01/13/identifying-correctly-what-actually-lost-last-nights-game-for-the-raptors/#comment-49368 khandor Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:43:15 +0000 http://khandorssportsblog.com/wordpress/?p=1722#comment-49368 Jeff, Prior to this play the Raptors were leading by 2 points. After this play the Raptors were trailing by 1 point. Beyond this play the Raptors were never able to regain the lead in this game. This means that what happened on this specific play was in fact the pivotal sequence/action/play of this particular game ... when it comes to determining the winner from the loser. When someone attempts to analyze accurately what specific thing may have caused Team A to lose a particular game to Team B, the proper way to do this is to "regress" from the point in that game at which the winning team was actually able to take the lead for the final time. Once that single possession is thoroughly dissected only then should an analyst who actually knows what s/he is doing begin to analyze the remaining possessions which occurred in the game going backwards one possession at a time from this pivotal point. [PLEASE NOTE: I have no problem whatsoever with anyone who points out that DeRozan was repeatedly abused at the defensive end of floor by the likes of Joe Johnson and Jamal Crawford, since this was in fact exactly what happened throughout this specific game prior to the pivotal play in question.] Jeff,

Prior to this play the Raptors were leading by 2 points.

After this play the Raptors were trailing by 1 point.

Beyond this play the Raptors were never able to regain the lead in this game.

This means that what happened on this specific play was in fact the pivotal sequence/action/play of this particular game … when it comes to determining the winner from the loser.

When someone attempts to analyze accurately what specific thing may have caused Team A to lose a particular game to Team B, the proper way to do this is to “regress” from the point in that game at which the winning team was actually able to take the lead for the final time.

Once that single possession is thoroughly dissected only then should an analyst who actually knows what s/he is doing begin to analyze the remaining possessions which occurred in the game going backwards one possession at a time from this pivotal point.

[PLEASE NOTE: I have no problem whatsoever with anyone who points out that DeRozan was repeatedly abused at the defensive end of floor by the likes of Joe Johnson and Jamal Crawford, since this was in fact exactly what happened throughout this specific game prior to the pivotal play in question.]

]]> By: Jeff http://khandorssportsblog.com/wordpress/2011/01/13/identifying-correctly-what-actually-lost-last-nights-game-for-the-raptors/#comment-49363 Jeff Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:24:29 +0000 http://khandorssportsblog.com/wordpress/?p=1722#comment-49363 You most certainly do becasue you identify that play, and specifically those players, when the only reason we were leading is because of them. Also the only reason this game even came down to the end was because of Demar. He was consistently the worst defender on the team all night and needed to be masked by Triano who switched to a zone. To suggest this loss was anyone else's fault only exposes your obvious bias. You most certainly do becasue you identify that play, and specifically those players, when the only reason we were leading is because of them. Also the only reason this game even came down to the end was because of Demar. He was consistently the worst defender on the team all night and needed to be masked by Triano who switched to a zone. To suggest this loss was anyone else’s fault only exposes your obvious bias.

]]> By: khandor http://khandorssportsblog.com/wordpress/2011/01/13/identifying-correctly-what-actually-lost-last-nights-game-for-the-raptors/#comment-49351 khandor Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:42:32 +0000 http://khandorssportsblog.com/wordpress/?p=1722#comment-49351 Jeff, What I wrote in this blog entry is concerned with the different individuals on the Raptors team who failed to do their job properly on this specific play which resulted in the Hawks taking the lead for good in the 4th quarter of this game. The words "international players", "american players" and "black" do <b><u>not</u></b> appear in my blog post. So ... If <b>you</b> happen to have issues with the nationality, or ethnicity, of certain players on the Raptors that's your business, but please do not make the mistake of thinking that I fit into the same category as you do. Jeff,

What I wrote in this blog entry is concerned with the different individuals on the Raptors team who failed to do their job properly on this specific play which resulted in the Hawks taking the lead for good in the 4th quarter of this game.

The words “international players”, “american players” and “black” do not appear in my blog post.

So …

If you happen to have issues with the nationality, or ethnicity, of certain players on the Raptors that’s your business, but please do not make the mistake of thinking that I fit into the same category as you do.

]]> By: Jeff http://khandorssportsblog.com/wordpress/2011/01/13/identifying-correctly-what-actually-lost-last-nights-game-for-the-raptors/#comment-49316 Jeff Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:04:10 +0000 http://khandorssportsblog.com/wordpress/?p=1722#comment-49316 Yeah its the international players who lost us the game, but i guess we should just excuse the fact that the two american players who you claimed did their job also fouled players 3x beyond the arc, which lead to 9 free throws. Or the fact that Amir doesn't know how to plant his feet on a pick. Or the fact that Demar's perimeter D was absolute shit and the main reason why Crawford and Johnson went off. Yeah lets blam Barbosa and Andrea, the two people who actually gave us a shot at winning this game and who defended there position effectively throughout the game, not just on one play. You're constant attack on anything that isnt black on this team is really getting old. Yeah its the international players who lost us the game, but i guess we should just excuse the fact that the two american players who you claimed did their job also fouled players 3x beyond the arc, which lead to 9 free throws. Or the fact that Amir doesn’t know how to plant his feet on a pick. Or the fact that Demar’s perimeter D was absolute shit and the main reason why Crawford and Johnson went off. Yeah lets blam Barbosa and Andrea, the two people who actually gave us a shot at winning this game and who defended there position effectively throughout the game, not just on one play.

You’re constant attack on anything that isnt black on this team is really getting old.

]]> By: khandor http://khandorssportsblog.com/wordpress/2011/01/13/identifying-correctly-what-actually-lost-last-nights-game-for-the-raptors/#comment-49314 khandor Fri, 14 Jan 2011 16:59:37 +0000 http://khandorssportsblog.com/wordpress/?p=1722#comment-49314 Mike D, When I read your comment, the words: "Paralyzed, I guess you would call it. Frozen." made me laugh out loud. :-) -------------------------------------------------------- As long as the Raptors have Bargnani playing 30+ minutes per game they will continue to be a very poor team at the defensive end of the floor. Mike D,

When I read your comment, the words:

“Paralyzed, I guess you would call it. Frozen.”

made me laugh out loud. :-)

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As long as the Raptors have Bargnani playing 30+ minutes per game they will continue to be a very poor team at the defensive end of the floor.

]]> By: Mike D http://khandorssportsblog.com/wordpress/2011/01/13/identifying-correctly-what-actually-lost-last-nights-game-for-the-raptors/#comment-49133 Mike D Fri, 14 Jan 2011 02:12:29 +0000 http://khandorssportsblog.com/wordpress/?p=1722#comment-49133 Oh Bargs. I guess we have to be happy that he at least went for the box out at the end of the play. His defensive IQ/awareness on this sequence is really instructive. Throughout the play, he seems genuinely aware that something is happening, but seems unable to figure out what it is or how he should move to stop it. Paralyzed, I guess you would call it. Frozen. Nice box out though. Oh Bargs. I guess we have to be happy that he at least went for the box out at the end of the play.

His defensive IQ/awareness on this sequence is really instructive. Throughout the play, he seems genuinely aware that something is happening, but seems unable to figure out what it is or how he should move to stop it. Paralyzed, I guess you would call it. Frozen.

Nice box out though.

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