Raptors remain clueless, when it comes to fixing problems

At some point, the days eventually begin to run together, in Raptorville.

The same problems occur from one season to the next and, seemingly, never ever get fixed properly.

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Feschuk: Listless Raptors puzzle GM Colangelo

“I’ve got a lot of suspicions, I guess, of what’s gone wrong. It hasn’t been the same since the all-star break,” Colangelo said. “Too many guys came back from the break with a different approach. And that’s the part that’s troubling. … It’s not a talent issue. And it’s clear that the right message is being delivered (by the coaching staff). But the students have to carry out the agenda. And it’s got to be a team agenda. It can’t be an individual agenda.”

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Is removing Jose Calderon from the starting line-up, once again, really going to solve their on-going problems at the defensive end of the floor?

Chisholm: Triano sending the wrong message

Is removing DeMar DeRozan from the starting line-up, for the first time this season, really going to be the catalyst for a substantive change in the way that this team approaches the business of rebounding and being able to fight back when things don’t quite go according to plan, in a given quarter, half, or game? … as other legitimate contending teams have always done in the history of the NBA.

Is asking Chris Bosh [i.e. the team's best player, by a wide margin] … the same question, again, and again:

“What’s wrong with you guys?”

 

really going to illicit a pearl of wisdom that, if said out loud to the reporters in a post practice/game media scrum, is going to miraculously change the culture which exists within their locker-room?

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The reality of the Raptors’ current situation is this:

1. Once the trade deadline has passed, there is very little that can be done to fundamentally alter the personnel on a team’s roster.

2. Firing their head coach makes little sense, given that he was hand-picked by the GM to run the day-to-day operation only 9 months ago, and the organization is still paying the salary of its former head coach [i.e. Sam Mitchell], who was fired in December of last season.

3. The team’s defensive woes have NOT been rooted in the mediocre-to-poor play of Jose Calderon, who is comparable … as a less-than stellar individual defender with a solid offensive game … to 6 of the other starting Point Guards for the Top 15 teams in the league [i.e. see the chart below].

STARTING 5 COMPOSITION FOR TOP 15 TEAMS

COMPARED WITH TORONTO RAPTORS

[as of Thu Mar 25 2010]

Rank

Team

Record

PG

OG

SF

PF

C

 

 

 

TS%

DEF

TReb

TS%

DEF

TReb

TS%

DEF

TReb

TS%

DEF

TReb

TS%

DEF

TReb

1

CLE

57-15

Williams

Parker

James

Jamison

Hickson

 

 

 

57.2

1.37

3.1

57.5

1.38

2.7

60.6

2.80

7.3

51.6

2.20

7.8

58.0

0.91

4.5

 

 

 

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2

LAL

53-18

Fisher

Bryant

Artest

Gasol

Bynum

 

 

 

49.8

1.91

1.9

54.8

2.15

5.3

54.2

1.88

4.3

58.5

2.43

11.1

61.0

2.05

8.4

 

 

 

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3

ORL

50-22

Nelson

Carter

Barnes

Lewis

Howard

 

 

 

53.0

1.07

2.7

53.9

1.13

4.1

57.5

1.29

5.6

57.0

1.51

4.6

63.3

3.69

13.1

 

 

 

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T-4

DEN

47-25

Billups

Afflalo

Anthony

Martin

Nene

 

 

 

61.8

1.41

3.0

57.7

1.10

2.8

55.5

1.84

6.7

48.4

2.31

9.6

63.4

2.71

7.8

 

 

 

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T-4

DAL

47-25

Kidd

Butler

Marion

Nowitzki

Haywood

 

 

 

57.6

2.54

5.4

50.5

2.25

4.4

53.5

1.82

6.7

57.1

2.17

7.7

58.7

2.44

8.1

 

 

 

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T-4

UTA

47-25

Williams

Matthews

Kirilenko

Boozer

Okur

 

 

 

57.2

1.75

4.0

58.8

1.15

2.1

59.1

2.86

4.6

59.4

1.68

11.1

55.0

2.05

6.9

 

 

 

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T-7

BOS

46-25

Rondo

Allen

Pierce

Garnet

Perkins

 

 

 

54.5

2.67

4.4

59.5

1.29

3.3

61.5

2.10

4.3

58.2

1.95

7.4

61.8

2.16

7.7

 

 

 

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T-7

ATL

46-25

Bibby

Johnson

Williams

Smith

Horford

 

 

 

53.7

1.16

2.2

53.5

1.35

4.7

54.2

1.45

5.3

53.8

4.09

8.8

60.2

1.94

9.7

 

 

 

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9

PHO

45-26

Nash

Richardson

Hill

Stoudemire

Lopez

 

 

 

61.4

1.14

3.3

57.3

1.49

5.4

56.3

1.56

5.5

61.5

1.90

8.8

57.2

2.60

8.8

 

 

 

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OKC

43-27

Westbrook

Sefolosha

Durant

Green

Krstic

 

 

 

49.4

1.87

5.0

49.0

1.91

4.9

60.2

2.33

7.5

53.5

2.23

6.1

51.6

1.30

5.0

 

 

 

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POR

43-29

Miller

Roy

Batum

Aldridge

Camby

 

 

 

52.8

1.59

3.3

56.7

1.44

4.5

67.9

1.69

3.7

53.1

1.54

8.1

38.2

4.08

9.8

 

 

 

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12

SAS

42-28

Parker

Ginobili

Jefferson

McDyess

Duncan

 

 

 

54.7

0.84

2.4

58.0

2.30

3.7

54.7

1.22

4.3

49.1

1.02

5.8

55.6

2.20

10.3

 

 

 

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13

MIL

39-31

Jennings

Delfino

Salmons

LRMAM

Bogut

 

 

 

47.5

1.64

3.5

52.9

1.49

5.4

58.4

1.59

3.2

54.6

1.58

5.5

53.9

3.79

10.3

 

 

 

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MEM

38-34

Conley

Mayo

Gay

Randolph

Gasol

 

 

 

52.2

1.61

2.3

55.2

1.69

3.8

53.8

2.42

5.9

54.9

1.46

11.9

61.9

3.18

9.5

 

 

 

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T-15

MIA

38-34

Arroyo

Wade

Richardson

Beasley

O’Neal

 

 

 

51.1

0.69

1.7

55.3

3.01

4.7

56.6

1.49

4.9

51.1

1.69

6.5

56.2

2.25

7.2

 

 

 

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T-15

CHA

37-34

Felton

Jackson

Wallace

Diaw

Chandler

 

 

 

51.6

1.97

3.7

51.9

2.63

5.1

59.0

3.30

10.5

55.2

1.54

5.1

59.5

1.58

6.3

 

 

 

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18

TOR

35-35

Calderon

DeRozan

Turkoglu

Bosh

Bargnani

 

 

 

57.5

1.11

2.2

53.9

1.05

3.0

54.2

1.16

4.5

59.1

1.71

11.1

55.7

1.84

6.0

 

 

 

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LEGEND: Red – 1 dimensional, Offensive focus; Yellow – 1 dimensional, Defensive focus; Blue – 1 dimensional, Rebounding focus; Orange – 2 dimensional, Offensive + Defensive focus; Purple – 2 dimensional, Offensive + Rebounding focus; Green – 2 dimensional, Defense + Rebounding focus; Brown – 3 dimensional, Offensive + Defensive + Rebounding focus; TS% – True shooting percentage; DEF – Defensive plays made per game; TReb – Total rebounds per game; > – Superior rating; – Average rating; < Inferior rating.

 

4.  The team’s defensive woes have NOT been rooted in the mediocre-to-poor play of DeMar DeRozan, who is the most effective Off Guard on their roster, given the individual short-comings of Antoine Wright, Sonny Weems and Marco Belinelli, none of whom are comparable to the starting players for the Top 15 teams in the league [i.e. see the chart below].

TS%

DEF

TReb

DeRozan

53.9

1.05

3.0

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49.9

0.75

2.6

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Weems

51.9

0.80

2.4

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Belinelli

54.5

0.98

1.5

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5. The most significant difference between Toronto’s starting line-up and the Top 15 teams in the league is at the Center position.

6. Opposite to what Bryan Colangelo might actually think:

* TENACITY is, in fact, a most valuable TALENT in the NBA … since every player does not have it in the same quantity;

and,

* The wrong message is, in fact, being sent whenever a NBA team uses an offensively focused player as its starting Center … while it does not also have a DOMINANT, multi-dimensional, Small Forward in its best Group of 5.

7. If Chris Bosh is, in fact, the best player on your team, by a wide margin, and Jose Calderon is, in fact, the best offensively focused Point Guard, and Hedo Turkoglu is, in fact, the best offensively focused Small Forward, then you simply CANNOT HAVE have another offensively focused player as your starting Center … if you want your team to exhibit the type of TENACITY that’s required to fight back from adverse situations which occur in NBA games. 

8. Andrea Bargnani is the player who NEEDS to be removed from the team’s starting line-up, if Toronto is going to turn around its lost season.

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PS. FYI, the stats shown here for TS%, DEF and TReb are from hoopdata.com.

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11 Responses to “Raptors remain clueless, when it comes to fixing problems”

  1. ezz_bee Says:

    Interesting logic… but even if your argument is valid bargs must be replaced with someone else. Who? Rasho? Evans? Johnson? You never say who should replace him. Is it obvious and I’m missing it? Isn’t that what BC was trying to do when he picked up O’neal last season? Can’t we start bargs and send Turk to the bench instead?

  2. Toronto Raptors Morning Coffee March 27 | Slam Dunking Says:

    [...] Khandor’s Sports Blog The reality of the Raptors’ current situation is this: [...]

  3. gmc765 Says:

    Here we go again, whenever the Raptors are losing Khandor will pop up from nowhere and will start bashing Andrea. Hey where are you when they are winning? Stats are nothing and not the real gauge, a good example of this is your idol Chris Bosh, he is always considered by many as a double-double guy but why don’t you check the player he is guarding every game day and surely you will find that 90% of the time they have increased their numbers both in point scored as well as board recovery ( I can backed it up with the figures if you want), whatever he produces is negated by the opposing team. For the starting unit I will always pick Jarret over Jose in point guard, Sonny Weems as the other guard, Hedo at small forward with Andrea and Chris. I hope next time you will be more objective with regards to your assessment of the team as well as the players and not be blinded by sheer love for Mr. Bosh. Please be with us not only when we are losing but as well as when we are winning. Enough said.

  4. Mauro Says:

    Khandor, you scared the hell off Andrea!.
    That’s from where the 15th boards come from…
    What about your best player in the team demanding 130 Million?
    Will he use some of those money to purchase something to remove the butter from his finger ? I sure hope so
    ciao

  5. khandor Says:

    ezz bee,

    1. Welcome aboard! :-)

    2. Johnson, Nesterovic and Evans would each be a better fit in the Raptors’ starting unit than Bargnani is beside players like:

    Jose Calderon [best PG by a wide margin]
    DeMar DeRozan [best OG by a wide margin]
    Hedo Turkoglu [best SF by default]

    and

    Chris Bosh [best player by a wide margin].

    3. Johnson, Nesterovic and Evans are NOTHING like Jermaine O’Neal.

    If Bryan Colangelo would simply not have traded for JO 2 summers ago …

    and, instead, stayed the course with a 3 big rotation of:

    i. Bosh/C and Humphries/PF, or
    ii. Bosh/C and Nesterovic/PF,

    with Bargnani as the 3rd wheel, coming off the bench, as I suggested back then …

    the Raptors would be so much further ahead of where they stand today [i.e. 2008-2009/33-49; and, 2009-2010/35-36], it’s not even funny.

    4. Unfortunately, it’s almost to the point now that it doesn’t really matter how much Bargnani actually improves, going forward from here, as the lack of consistent progress he has shown over his first 4 years in the league HAS already cost this franchise dearly.

    5. Sending Turkoglu to the bench … or, packing to a different city altogether … are most definitely other options for the Raptors to consider.

    i.e. It’s by no means a coincidence that Bargnani played better last night with Turkoglu out of the line-up completely and with Weems and Wright in as starters, beside Bosh and Calderon, with DeRozan coming in from the bench.

    Between that specific option, however, and the other options which I’ve outlined above … i.e. concerning Bargnani’s removal from the starting unit … the better way to go with this year’s team involves using the former 2006 No. 1 [overall] Draft Pick as instant offense off the bench and making HIM the prime scoring focus of the team whenever Chris Bosh is off the floor.

  6. khandor Says:

    gmc765,

    In general, Bargnani plays lousy defense and does a poor job rebounding.

    Whether the Raptors win, or lose, specifically, is not part of the equation.

    There’s no sense in pointing it out, repeatedly, however, when the Raptors lose because most of those in Raptorville are more concerned with the W.

    In general:

    When the Raptors win …

    - they get a good offensive performance from Bargnani
    - they get good performances all around from their other players
    - they get a poor defensive and rebounding performance from Bargnani

    When the Raptors lose …

    Option 1

    - they get a good offensive performance from Bargnani
    - they get less-than good performances all around from their other players
    - they get a poor defensive and rebounding performance from Bargnani

    Option 2

    - they get a less-than good offensive performance from Bargnani
    - they get less-than good performances all around from their other players
    - they get a poor defensive and rebounding performance from Bargnani

    Do you notice the constant?

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    re: Who Bosh is checking

    Bosh is a mediocre defender at the PF position.

    Bosh is an average to above average defender at the C position, except against rare players like Shaquille O’Neal and Dwight Howard.

    When Bosh is playing beside Bargnani, and Bargnani is checking the opponent’s Center, and Bosh gets lit up on the defensive end of the floor …

    Do you realize that it only serves to STRENGTHEN the perspective which holds that Bargnani is the one who has no business being on the floor beside a player like Chris Bosh … who is so much better than Bargnani, it isn’t funny … because it means that Bosh is then prevented from being able to check the position at which HE ACTUALLY DEFENDS THE BEST [with quickness rather than strength/power], in the NBA game?

    [Aside: It can be hilarious dealing with certain individuals on-line who fail to see this type of simplistic information about how the game is actually played at the highest levels, yet still feel the need to try and put down a player like Chris Bosh for being a poor defensive player overall.]

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    re: Jack + Weems + Turkoglu + Bosh + Bargnani

    You are certainly entitled to choose Jack over Calderon.

    Either Weems or DeRozan is fine by me, provided that Wright doesn’t ever get to play.

    I would almost always choose to go with someone other than Turkoglu, as my SF, if I had the choice.

    Turkoglu is mediocre at everything and very good at almost nothing.

    Bosh is a quality Center, in the NBA, and an above average Power Forward. I would choose to play him at Center, exclusively.

    Bargnani can only check a power-based player, at the Center position.

    Bargnani is still one of the main problems with this team.

    I don’t waste my time bigging up a team/player when it/he does a couple of things well and a whole bunch of things poorly … especially, if what it/he is doing is winning in spite of its/his many deficiencies, through a combination of opponent errors and fortunate circumstances.

    It’s much better to remain silent until there’s a good reason to say something which is important to say.

  7. khandor Says:

    Mauro,

    It would take me as little as 1 season to turn Andrea Bargnani into an NBA All-Star calibre player.

    Do not get the wrong impression that I think Bargnani is useless.

    There are all sorts of players in this world who perform poorly, on a regular basis, because they are not coached and/or GM’ed the way that they need to be coached/GM’ed, in order to perform at their maximum capacity.

    Bargnani’s best position in the NBA is Back-up Center.

    Until he’s used in this way … it’s a waste of time, energy and resources.

    ————-

    Bosh, on the other hand, is a terrific Starting Center, if you know how to use him properly, and surround him with the right kind of teammates and coaches.

    If you don’t know what you’re doing, however … using Chris Bosh as your starting PF is a waste of time, energy and resources.

  8. gmc765 Says:

    Chris Bosh a terrific starting centre, you must be dreaming.

  9. khandor Says:

    gmc765,

    Dealing with supposed Raptors “fans” like you, who have a hate on for Chris Bosh, as a Starting Center in the NBA, is hilarious.

    How many other starting centers in the NBA do you count as being better than Chris Bosh?

    Eastern Conference

    CLEVELAND – O’Neal [stand-off between his power & Chris' quicks]
    BOSTON – Perkins
    ORLANDO – Howard [stand-off between his power & Chris' quicks]
    ATLANTA – Horford
    MILWAUKEE – Bogut
    MIAMI – O’Neal
    CHARLOTTE – Chandler
    CHICAGO – Noah
    NEW YORK – Lee
    PHILADELPHIA – Dalembert
    INDIANA – Hibbert
    DETROIT – Wallace
    WASHINGTON – Blatche
    NEW JERSEY – Lopez

    Western Conference

    LA LAKERS – Bynum
    DENVER – Nene [stand-off between his power and Chris' quicks]
    DALLAS – Haywood
    UTAH – Okur
    PHOENIX – Lopez
    OKLAHOMA CITY – Krstic
    SAN ANTONIO – Duncan [Tim gets the edge, as a HOF Center, who's not old just yet]
    PORTLAND – Camby
    MEMPHIS – Gasol
    HOUSTON – Ming [stand-off between his size and Chris' quicks]
    NEW ORLEANS – Okafor
    LA CLIPPERS – Kaman
    SACRAMENTO – Hawes
    GOLDEN STATE – Biedrins
    MINNESOTA – Jefferson

    LOL, :-)

    I count, possibly, 5 [out of 29] … and, as few as only 1 [i.e. the Big Fundamental].

    ————————————

    The fact is …

    * Chris Bosh has zero problems, in this league, when he gets to play the Center position … and, neither does his team.

  10. Scott G Says:

    hmm… interesting that you have Shaq in that group. Given his declining athleticism, I’m not sure I agree. I think Bynum, Bogut, Horford and possibly B. Lopez are better than Shaq right now. (Except if playing against DH12, in which case Shaq is quite useful…)

  11. khandor Says:

    Scott G.,

    Although I have Shaq in the group along with Tim Duncan, Dwight Howard, Yao Ming and Nene … it is somewhat deceiving, since I would also rate the members of that group in the following way:

    1. Tim Duncan … better than Bosh
    ————————
    2. Dwight Howard … even with Bosh, as they can each take advantage of the other
    3. Nene … even with Bosh, as they can each take advantage of the other
    ————————
    4. Yao Ming … behind Bosh, as CB4 will simply wear him down in an up-tempo game
    5. Shaquille O’Neal … now behind Bosh, as CB4 will simply wear him down in an up-tempo game; but, formerly, was superior to Bosh, ala Timmy D.

    With LeBron James, as his side-kick, however, Shaq can still do considerable damage to Chris Bosh, in a slow-down game, if CB4 has to play him with single coverage in the low post.

    As a basketball player, overall … yes, I agree with your take that Shaq is no longer anywhere close to Misters Horford, Bynum and Lopez-B.

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