What the 4-team trade was REALLY about from the Raptors’ perspective

For Raptors fans who think that the recent 4-team trade was in fact based on the commitment of MLSE to do what’s necessary to win a League Championship, one day in the not-too-distant future:

Colangelo still tinkering with Raptors roster
“You have to find a way to get the right pieces in this year and roll forward and keep below that luxury tax level,” Colangelo said. “It’s going to get tighter and it’s something to contend with.”

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you SHOULD seriously re-evaluate that specific line of thinking.

When you hear Bryan Colangelo speak next of DOING WHAT’S NECESSARY TO ACCOMPLISH THAT SPECIFIC GOAL, down-the-road, please feel free to notify yours truly [perhaps, via email] right away! ;)

The Raptors’ GM … and chief representative of MLSE, on the hoops side of the operation … talks, repeatedly, about being “committed to building a winning team” BUT he NEVER EVER takes the NEXT STEP and mentions something about,

“Doing what’s necessary to actually have a legitimate shot at winning the League Championship.”

What’s the reason for this?

Does he actually know what this involves, in today’s NBA, regarding such things as: i. Basketball Philosophy, ii. Coaching Philosophy, iii. Player Personnel, and iv. The Financial Commitment Required [etc.]?

The teams that are “honestly” trying to WIN the Championship in the NBA, these days, know full well that in order to give themselves a “real” chance at accomplishing this goal, they are going to have to accept the fact that they will be paying The Luxury Tax … which is really Nothing More than the “current toll fare” … in return for The Right to be able to drive on that specific Super-Highway.

The highest level of competition possible is where the Big Boyz play and that’s the going freight just to ante into the game.

The San Antonio Spurs … located in a small-to-mid sized market, but with a 1st-class ownership group [expertly led by Peter Holt] and a Top Notch GM/Head Coach tandem  [i.e. RC Buford & Gregg Popovich] … are a prime example of a team that is now fully aware of this and, therefore, chose to act accordingly this off season … i.e. as you can plainly see from their recent decisions to:

* Retain their best 3 players [i.e. Time Duncan, Manu Ginobili & Tony Parker]

* Retain a veteran like Michael Finley

* Select 3 new players in the 2009 NBA Draft [i.e. DeJuan Blair, No. 37, Jack McClinton, No. 51, and Nando De Colo, No. 53] who are ready to compete right away

* Trade for Richard Jefferson [i.e. another high end player], and

* Sign Antonio McDyess [UFA]

While the Toronto Raptors, on the other hand … chose to go a different route, replete with a Magician’s Wand & Cloak, a rabbit, a head stand, a glass of bottled water, a still dry shirt – with an exceedingly high collar - and an accompanying 3-piece band of partners in crime.

There are just a few teams in this League that are legitimately trying to WIN It All [i.e. Category One] …

then, there’s Everybody Else [i.e. who can be further sub-divided into two additional specific Categories: Two. Those trying to field a highly "competitive" team, in the process of turning a profit, annually; and, Three. Those simply trying to survive in hopes of maybe turning a profit].

DO NOT MAKE THE MISTAKE OF THINKING THAT WHAT THE RAPTORS DID WITH THEIR PARTICIPATION IN THIS 4-TEAM TRADE WAS DESIGNED TO SHIFT THEM FROM CATEGORY TWO INTO CATEGORY ONE.

It was not; not by a long shot.

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Related:

Which franchise made out best from the 4-team trade?

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15 Responses to “What the 4-team trade was REALLY about from the Raptors’ perspective”

  1. adot Says:

    Dude I just went through your blog posts and you rarely have anything positive to say about the Raptors. Granted, their past couple of years have been pretty moderate and disappointing, but things seem to be heading in the right direction so why are you negative?

    What’s the point of being filled with so much negative passion ? You realize it’s not worth it right, lol. It’s a lot better to be a fan of a sports team that you actually enjoy and have a positive outlook for.

    Always taking the negative approach is not worth being a sports fan in my humble opinion. Have you considered following a different team that fits your high standards? Maybe the Spurs? They have excellent management and are dynasty. Your standards will rarely leave you satisfied as a Raptors fan.

    We all want the team to win but we have realistic expectations. Give them a few years to really establish themselves as a legitimate team in the East prior to raising your unrealistic expectations… and take a chill pill :-D

  2. Hardcore Raps Says:

    sigh… Khandor when are you ever going to give it up. The MLSE will not go into the red. Plain and simple. Although we as fans would love for them to fork out the big $… they simply won’t do it. We dream of having an individual owner who is willing to spend his money freely, but the MLSE has thousands of stakeholders interests in mind. The fact that BC can field a competitive team under that scrutiny deserves extra credit. What BC was able to do, and do it under the luxury tax, was simply amazing. You don’t have to like it, but guess what, the vast majority of fans and “experts” (I use that term loosely) do. Can’t you just put away your criticism wand for 1 day and not try to find a way to belittle BC? Can you actually tell me that the Raps aren’t better off having made that deal? They get Hedo (which I know you like) and BC has more money to spend on FA (whoever they may be), and he does that WITHOUT going over the luxury tax. Your option includes having to go OVER the luxury tax… why spend more money for the same result? Give credit where credit is due.

    Will this team win a Championship this year… likely not. But we also don’t have any of the phenoms of this league. The Lebron James, the Kobe Bryants or the Tim Duncans (who your beloved Spur were lucky enough to draft and build a team around. Without whom the Spurs would most likely not even be a playoff team) But will this team be competitive… I think it will. And I for one, given the credentials of this league, am more than happy with that. BC is working his ass off to put a competitive team on the floor. That is something to be respected.

    I know you think that the MLSE doesn’t have a true commitment to win the championship, and they likely don’t care what happens as long as they are making money. For the most part I agree with that. But if that bothers you so much, its time to find a different team to support… because the MLSE aren’t going anywhere. The MLSE will only spend money if they think it will give them more in return, thats what good business people do. Be happy we even have a team in Canada, because I doubt we would if it wasn’t for the MLSE.

    Option 2, is starting saving your money and buy them out. However accomplish this you may have to take a couple days away from criticizing BC in order to do it.

  3. FAQ Says:

    adot and Hardcore Raps are your typical tribal honking fans who believe if you say anything critical of the Raptors you will put a hex on them. They are subjectively bound in their feeeelings and are unable to objectively assess the MLSE, BC and the Raptor team. Why they should even bother entering this erudite forum is a mystery .. unless they just can’t bear the thought that the Raptors may be going down the wrong path.

    I’m betting that Bosh will abandon the Raptors in 2010 because he’s had his fill of Toronto and fighting to survive on a team that most US NBA players don’t really want to play on. I also see BC stacking the team for that eventuality .. with Hedo, Bargs, Jose, even DeDe. That’s not ‘negative’, that’s anticipating a potential reality.

    Of course true Raptor fans wouldn’t dare mention Bosh leaving .. that’s heresy and must not be said lest it happen.

    MLSE’s only concern is to show a healthy profit, and if that happens BC will get big, fat, juicy bonus. As for building a championship team, that’s highly unlikely with the current inventory of players.

  4. Hardcore Raps Says:

    FAQ- so I’m a tribal honking fan because I have liked BCs moves? I can’t criticize a guy that I feel is unfairly criticizing a great GM? Because I disagree with you and Khandor I must be blinded by my love for the Raps. Nice Judgement call based on…. oh yes your own personal beliefs. Hmm who is not being objective now

    You my friend know absolutely nothing about me yet you think you can analyze me based on one post? You know nothing of my feelings on Bosh… I’ve been screaming trade for a year now. Did you happen to notice when I mentioned the ‘phenoms’ in this league Bosh wasn’t in there?

    “unable to objectively assess the MLSE, BC and the Raptor team – I think you have this backwards. As I stated I believe the MLSE is only out for the cash. Much like you believe. However I dont instantly think this team cant win because of it much like yourself and Khandor. Your dislike for our ownership (while not misplaced) is misleading your view of the Raps and BC.

    Do you personally know BC…. do you run a multi-million dollar operation…… have you ever managed a competetive for-profit basketball program of any level…. yeah I thought not. And yet you act like you know how to because you have watched basketball for a few years

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  6. Johnn19 Says:

    Talking about winning championships is a long, long, way in the future.

    First you have to be a winning franchise, making the playoffs, winning in the playoffs, then getting to the conference finals, then winning them, then getting to the NBA finals, then winning a championship.

    A long way to go, lets not talk about champioships, lets talk about progress, winning games, making the playoffs, winning a round, creating a winning environment, and entertaining the fans of the team.

  7. khandor Says:

    1. Thanks to everyone who submitted their comment over the weekend. :-)

    As FAQ has correctly pointed out … one of the beauties of this little corner of the net is the erudite conversation that can occur here, unfettered by the gibberish which exists in other environments that are designed to fulfil a very different niche in the on-line hoops community.

    2. Let’s “start” with the suggestion to …

    I. Please revisit what I said the rosters looked like in the aftermath of the 4-Team trade:

    Pay particular attention to the chart,

    ROSTERS AFTER 4-TEAM TRADE.”

    II. According to an email I received recently the chances of Marcin Gortat staying with the Magic have improved considerably since this trade was announced last week:

    * Apparently Magic will hang on to Marcin

    * Gortat to be resigned by Magic

    III. Then, put that together with this roster move by Orlando, as well:

    Magic add ex-Mavs forward Bass

    IV. In addition to the $7.0-10.0 M Trade Exception Otis Smith & Dave Twardzik are now sitting on, courtesy of last week’s 4-team trade,

    and then “end” with this simple little question:

    3. Now, please go ahead and tell me, again …

    How it is you think that the Raptors benefitted from this 4-team transaction in a way that was somehow SUPERIOR to the Magic?

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    I will do my best to respond to each of your individual comments as the day moves along.

    The exchange of ideas between each of you … that does not include me … is most welcome here, as well, provided that you play nicely “with” – and not against – one another.

    When we try to learn from and share with one another the world becomes a far better place!

    Trying to “win arguments” on-line isn’t what it’s really all about, IMO. :-)

  8. khandor Says:

    adot,

    1. Welcome aboard! :-)

    2.

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    Dude I just went through your blog posts and you rarely have anything positive to say about the Raptors.
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    I. If … and I repeat, if … that is really the case, then the fault for this lies with the Toronto Raptors rather than with yours truly …

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    Granted, their past couple of years have been pretty moderate and disappointing,
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    as you seem to already have an understanding, when you include an acknowledgment like that …

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    but things seem to be heading in the right direction so why are you negative?
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    before getting lost again, in the kool-aid distributed by those who are failing to assess the goings-on in an accurate way.

    There’s a difference between each of the following:

    i. Being Accurate
    ii. Being Right
    iii. Being wrong
    iv. Being realistic
    v. Being optimistic
    vi. Being pessimistic
    vii. Being balanced
    viii. Being “just” a fan
    ix. Being “more than” just a fan
    x. Being who I am and doing what it is that I do here.

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    What’s the point of being filled with so much negative passion?
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    Au contraire.

    There is zero “negative” passion in what I do … ever.

    I simply do NOT operate in THAT way.

    IMO, those who think that I do show a side of their character perhaps and fail to illuminate mine further in any way, shape or form.

    As always, however, others are free to make their own judgments, in this regard, as they wish. :-)

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    You realize it’s not worth it right, lol. It’s a lot better to be a fan of a sports team that you actually enjoy and have a positive outlook for.

    Always taking the negative approach is not worth being a sports fan in my humble opinion. Have you considered following a different team that fits your high standards? Maybe the Spurs? They have excellent management and are dynasty. Your standards will rarely leave you satisfied as a Raptors fan.

    We all want the team to win but we have realistic expectations. Give them a few years to really establish themselves as a legitimate team in the East prior to raising your unrealistic expectations… and take a chill pill
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    The San Antonio Spurs organization is one of the very best in all of professional sports and the level of R.E.S.P.E.C.T. I have for them is immense … if in doubt of this, just ask FLUX :-) … but there’s is only one team which I actually want to have the Larry O’Brien Trophy in its possession and that is the Toronto Raptors.

    This team is has been existence since 1995 … a period of 14 years. For those of us who go back to being Buffalo Braves fans during the early 1970′s because they played the occasional game in Toronto [at Maple Leaf Gardens] and were available to watch on WIVB [Channel 4] with Van Miller and Chuck Healy, et al., and have experienced each and every step along the way with the birth and growth of the Raptors franchise …

    e.g. Raptors? From a “choose-the-name-of-the-team contest”? Are you joking? What the heck kind of name is that? Oh, well … I guess we’ll get use to it soon enough with the passage of time.

    That said, however …

    if/when you also happen to be someone with a substantial amount of knowledge about how sport & games work, in general, in addition to “just the NBA”, specifically …

    what you do NOT do is put the blinders on and drink the kool-aid, when an organization like this one, i.e. MLSE, with the resources at its disposal, extends the streak of years WITHOUT winning a Stanley Cup to 42 seasons as it’s in the process of simultaneously creating a legacy of ineptitude on the basketball side of the operation, i.e. 0-14 … in the midst of MAKING MONEY, HAND OVER FIST.

    IMO … that’s called being a chump … and, if there’s one thing for certain in this world, know that yours truly’s mother and father did NOT raise a chump.

    Unlike other “just fans” of the Toronto Raptors, the position which I hold relative to this team is extremely subtle … and requires a substantial amount of actual Basketball Acumen to comprehend properly [and fully], in the first place, which not many in the on-line hoops community have a solid handle on yet, and goes something like this:

    This is an organization that has tremendous assets in its possession, which it has failed to utilize properly for an extended number of years, that, if it had would already be considered one of the VERY BEST organizations in all of professional sport, in a way which is perhaps similar to the San Antonio Spurs, and instead has and continues to shoot itself in its proverbial foot, time and time, again, with decisions that are either “poor” or “substantially below the level of what I would consider to be excellent” … relative to the competition … and is content to just be “highly competitive”, while making a tonne of coin, instead of doing what is necessary and displaying the Commitment it takes to become a Great Championship-Winning organization.

    Those who say, “The resources are not there [yet?] to win Big in Toronto,” simply do not understand fully what the Toronto Raptors could have already become by this point, if they would have been operated in a different way than they have been to this point, from a Basketball Acumen standpoint.

    Those who say, “Take a chill pill, and relax,” do NOT have the type of expertise to realize what opportunities have been thrown away by this organization to this point with regard to WINNING championships and are, instead, prioritizing such things as [i] having a “highly competitive” team, which is [ii] very “entertaining”, [iii] wins its fair share of games, and [iv] makes a swack of money for its ownership group, on an annual basis.

    These are NOT the priorities which I have for this team.

    It’s as “simple” … and as complex, simultaneously … as that.

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    3. Thanks a bunch for joining in.

    Hope you enjoy the ride! :-)

  9. khandor Says:

    Hardcorps Raps,

    re: Hardcore Raps Says: July 11th, 2009 at 1:49 pm

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    sigh… Khandor when are you ever going to give it up. The MLSE will not go into the red. Plain and simple.
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    Says who?

    e.g. I am willing to wager a substantially amount of my own hard-earned money that it would take me, personally, less than 3 months on the job to be able to convince the Board of Directors to exceed the Luxury Tax Threshold with the players’ salaries for the Raptors.

    You read that right … it would take me, or someone like me, as little as 3 months to pull THAT off.

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    Although we as fans would love for them to fork out the big $… they simply won’t do it.
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    You and others have zero knowledge of this fact.

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    We dream of having an individual owner who is willing to spend his money freely, but the MLSE has thousands of stakeholders interests in mind.
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    For some reason you seem to see the interests of those stakeholders as being inconsistent with the business of Winning Championships.

    In plain and simple language … I do NOT.

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    The fact that BC can field a competitive team under that scrutiny deserves extra credit.
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    To this claim/observation, I suggest, “B.S.”

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    What BC was able to do, and do it under the luxury tax, was simply amazing.
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    If your claim/observation actually read like this …

    “What BC was able to do [in regard to building a championship team] was simply amazing.”,

    without the caveat that refers to,

    “under the Luxury Tax,”

    in any way, then you’d have a scoop there, my friend.

    Hear this loudly and clearly.

    If exceeding The Luxury Tax Threshold is the “toll fare” that an organization has to be willing to pay today, if it is going to be able to compete legitimately to WIN the NBA Championship, then that’s,

    The way it is“.

    It’s a complete red-herring to suggest that it is a tremendous accomplishment of sorts to win a lot of games in this league … without winning the championship … while being under the ARTIFICIALLY IMPOSED Luxury Tax Threshold.

    The NBA is about Winning The championship.

    The NBA is NOT about Winning WHILE “being under the Luxury Tax Threshold.”

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    You don’t have to like it, but guess what, the vast majority of fans and “experts” (I use that term loosely) do.
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    What the “majority” actually does is of little concern to me … since that majority is actually wrong way more frequently than it happens to be Right.

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    Can’t you just put away your criticism wand for 1 day and not try to find a way to belittle BC?
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    Show me an instance where I have ever belittled Bryan Colangelo?

    Raptors-Records-from-2005/2006-to-2008/2009

    There is no belittlement involved with stating the W-L record of the Raptors since February 2006.

    There is no belittlement involved with characterizing that achievement as “average”.

    There is no belittlement in characterizing what the Phoenix Suns did under his leadership as being “average” … given the cirumstances that existed in “The Valley of The Sun” either.

    Those who think there is are the ones who need to re-examine THEIR agenda, which disagrees with an assessment of THAT type.

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    Can you actually tell me that the Raps aren’t better off having made that deal?
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    Did you read carefully what I actually wrote?

    The fact is … I said that the Raptors improved their team with this 4-team trade.

    Where they lost was … in relationship to what Dallas gained and to what Orlando gained.

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    They get Hedo (which I know you like) and BC has more money to spend on FA (whoever they may be), and he does that WITHOUT going over the luxury tax. Your option includes having to go OVER the luxury tax… why spend more money for the same result? Give credit where credit is due.
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    Trust that I give credit appropriately … when credit is due.

    You think the results are going to be the same with this team this transaction has created with the Raptors in comparison to what they would be had they made the decision to EXCEED THE LUXURY TAX THRESHOLD?

    If you do … understand, please, that:

    1. You have the right to hold that opinion;

    and,

    2. Time will tell, if that opinion happens to be right.

    Personally, I don’t think time will eventually prove it to have been right, in this instance.

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    Will this team win a Championship this year… likely not. But we also don’t have any of the phenoms of this league. The Lebron James, the Kobe Bryants or the Tim Duncans (who your beloved Spur were lucky enough to draft and build a team around. Without whom the Spurs would most likely not even be a playoff team) But will this team be competitive… I think it will. And I for one, given the credentials of this league, am more than happy with that. BC is working his ass off to put a competitive team on the floor. That is something to be respected.
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    Luck?

    You think winning the NBA championship is about being lucky?

    You are certainly entitled to hold that opinion, if you wish.

    I do NOT share that perception in regard to what’s involved with WINNING A CHAMPIONSHIP.

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    I know you think that the MLSE doesn’t have a true commitment to win the championship, and they likely don’t care what happens as long as they are making money. For the most part I agree with that. But if that bothers you so much, its time to find a different team to support… because the MLSE aren’t going anywhere. The MLSE will only spend money if they think it will give them more in return, thats what good business people do. Be happy we even have a team in Canada, because I doubt we would if it wasn’t for the MLSE.
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    1. MLSE isn’t going anywhere?

    According to who? Warren Buffet? Alan Greenspan? Enron? General Motors Corporation? Who exactly are you suggesting knows what the future holds for the ownership of the Toronto Maple Leafs and the Toronto Raptors?

    From my POV, it’s important to see the trees and the forest, simultaneously.

    “Life is fast and things happen quickly.”Derek Fisher

    2. Winning the Championship and engaging in good business practices are not mutually exclusive.

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    Option 2, is starting saving your money and buy them out.
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    Thanks, but, no thanks. Being an owner of a pro sports franchise holds little appeal to me.

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    However accomplish [sic] this you may have to take a couple days away from criticizing BC in order to do it.
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    Has Mark Cuban refrained from critiquing David Stern?

    Did Andrew Young refrain from critiquing Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.?

    Did Plato refrain from critiquing Socrates?

    Food For Thought, my friend.

  10. khandor Says:

    FYI,

    re: FAQ’s comment

    Others might not know already that FAQ and I do not share the same opinion about Chris Bosh and whether he will resign with the Raptors and, if not, what the reason for this will be.

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    FAQ,

    Just because someone thinks Chris Bosh is a high end player in this league and that Bryan Colangelo should try his best to resign CB4 at whatever cost is necessary … in order to go about the business of building a championship team properly, in today’s NBA … does not necessarily mean that this person is should fall into the category of a “tribal honking fan”.

    From a Basketball Acumen Standpoint, resinging Chris Bosh and continuing to build around him AND Jose Calderon makes a great deal of sense. :-)

    The major problem I have with this specific model is the way that a player like Andrea Bargnani [C] DOES NOT FIT BEST with foundation players like Bosh [C, and clearly No. 1] and Calderon [PG, and clearly No. 2].

  11. khandor Says:

    Hardcore Raps,

    re: Hardcore Raps Says: July 12th, 2009 at 9:26 am

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    However I dont instantly think this team cant win because of it much like yourself and Khandor. Your dislike for our ownership (while not misplaced) is misleading your view of the Raps and BC.
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    Hopefully you now have a better understanding of what I think after having read what I’ve written here … as what you said there concerning me doesn’t reflect my position accurately.

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    Do you personally know BC…. do you run a multi-million dollar operation…… have you ever managed a competetive for-profit basketball program of any level…. yeah I thought not. And yet you act like you know how to because you have watched basketball for a few years
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    If my answer to 2 of those 3 questions you asked is, “Yes, I do/have.”

    Does that then make a difference to you?

    LOL, :-)

  12. khandor Says:

    Johnn19,

    re: Johnn19 Says: July 12th, 2009 at 2:56 pm

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    Talking about winning championships is a long, long, way in the future.
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    Please don’t take what I’m going to say next in the wrong way, as it is not meant as a personal insult to you, specifcally. You just happened to be the one that made this specific comment here.

    Nothing reflects a total lack of understanding of what’s required to win the NBA championship more than thinking which runs along THIS SUPPOSED STATEMENT OF FACT which just happens to be pure fallacy.

    Championship-winning organizations in any field of endeavour talk and think and act in one of two distinct ways:

    1. They never ever mention winning but, instead, focus exclusively on Developing To The Best Of Their Ability, while establshing targets for performance that, if reached, INEVITABLY result in WINNING THE CHAMPIONSHIP;

    or,

    2. They speak about and think about and act in a way which epitomizes WINNING THE CHAMPIONSHIP is all about from DAY ONE when their organization comes into existence … because THAT is their LONG TERM GOAL, their PRIME DIRECTIVE, their Raison D’etre … as opposed to “just making a great deal of money”.

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    First you have to be a winning franchise, making the playoffs, winning in the playoffs, then getting to the conference finals, then winning them, then getting to the NBA finals, then winning a championship.
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    The fact is …

    The Raptors first became a winning franchise and qualified for the NBA Playoffs in the 1999-2000 season … which was 10 years ago.

    The Raptors won their first Playoff series in the 2000-2001 season … which was 9 years ago.

    The Raptors SHOULD have been able to reach the EC Finals for the first time in 2001-2002 … the following season … which was 8 years ago.

    Those who have a misplaced understanding of where the Toronto Raptors franchise SHOULD be today are those who keep repeating the sentiments echoed in the words you have chosen to write here.

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    A long way to go, lets not talk about champioships, lets talk about progress, winning games, making the playoffs, winning a round, creating a winning environment, and entertaining the fans of the team.
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    FACT IS …

    Been there, done that already.

    Nuff, said.

    This is but, yet another, red-herring way of thinking & being. :-(

  13. ChrisR Says:

    exhibit A: Boston Celtics

    1. They are a below .500 team one year

    2. Ownership makes a decision to win a championship.

    3. They DO WHAT IT TAKES to win, which includes parlaying their young assets into veterans, and paying the luxury tax.

    4. Presto! NBA champions.

    This doesn’t always work ie. New York Knicks, however I believe the NY example has more to do with poor management decisions.

    The reason I agree with you on this one Khandor, is that to listen to Colangelo speak about the luxury tax, he makes it seem as if it’s totally off boundries. The fact is, there are more than several teams over the tax threshold.

    All this tells me is that A. he and MLSE are trying to put the wool over our eyes, and B. They could care less about actually winning a championship.

  14. ChrisR Says:

    I believe 9 teams are paying the tax? correct me if I’m wrong

    Also, as Colangelo is the GM and president, I imagine he has much more of a fiscal responsibility, and making sure his product turns a nice profit, than if he were just hired as a gunslinging GM alone…

  15. khandor Says:

    ChrisR,

    One of the things that mystifies me is just how quickly and easily so many “regular fans” will attempt to negate the facts at the root of a take like yours by referring to a situation like the New York Knicks, under the direction of Isiah Thomas … as if ALL teams that are run by a former great player with an open check book are inevitably doomed to be run into the ground by a philosophy which is completely committed to doing what’s necessary to win the championship in this league.

    In fact, just because the Knicks have failed to achieve their goal, thus far:

    1. Doesn’t mean that making such a commitment to succeed is indeed going to back-fire and lead to either [A] financial ruin for the team … i.e. last I looked the Knicks were still doing quite well money-wise as part of Mr. Dolan’s empire … or [B] Terminal despair for their loyal fanbase … i.e. last I checked, the New York faithful were still very ardent supporters of their team;

    and,

    2. Doesn’t mean that it is possible to win the NBA championship without first making just such a commitment to succeed, in a major way, in the first place.

    Non kool-aid drinkers, like you, who are still ardent fans of the Raptors are always most welcome here! :-)

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