Comparing the Raptors to the Hawks

When Raptors fans look at the way their team is perfoming during the final 20 games of their disappointing season …

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Date

Opponent

Result

 Mar 6

vs Mia *

L

 Mar 8

vs Uta *

L

 Mar 11

at Phi * 

L

 Mar 13

vs Det *

L

 Mar 15

vs Ind

W

 Mar 16

at Cha

L

 Mar 20

vs Cha

L

 Mar 22

vs LAC

W

 Mar 25

vs Mil

W

 Mar 27

vs OkC

W

 Mar 29

vs Chi

W

 Apr 1

at Orl *

W

 Apr 4

at NYK

W

 Apr 5

vs NYK

L

 Apr 7

vs Atl *

L

 Apr 8

at Ind

?

 Apr 10

vs Was

?

 Apr 12

vs Phi *

?

 Apr 13

at Was

?

 Apr 15

at Chi

?

* – >.500 Team

winning only 7 of the 15 games [.467] they’ve played thus far.

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they need to make an accurate appraisal of the players who will form the nucleus of this team going forward from here:

 

khandor’s Player Efficiency Rating [kPER]

RAPTORS vs Hawks

[Tue Apr 07 2009]

 

Best RAPTORS

Best Hawks

1

Bosh

+30

38:35

1

Horford

+23

32:16

2

Calderon

+28

35:00

2

Johnson

+22

39:29

3

Marion

+16

37:02

3

Smith

+22

46:38

4

Douby

+10

08:58

4

Bibby

+18

34:08

5

Bargnani

+7

29:07

5

Evans

+16

35:52

6

Parker

+6

31:06

6

Pachulia

+9

16:22

7

Kapono

+4

18:39

7

Murray

+7

28:23

8

Graham

+3

13:42

8

Law

0

06:14

9

Ukic

+2

05:11

9

West

0

00:19

10

O’Bryant

+2

16:22

10

Gardner

0

00:19

11

M-Bonsu

0

06:18

11

Jones

DNP

 

12

Voskuhl

DNP

 

12

Morris

DNP

 

 

TOTAL

+108

 

 

TOTAL

+117

 

Unlike many others in Raptorville, this corner does not believe that the main problems this team has experienced this season have been rooted in the assortment of injuries they’ve sustained and/or the overall poor performances of Chris Bosh and Jose Calderon, who are their best players by a wide margin.

Until Bryan Colangelo significantly upgrades the players who are currently slotted into the #3-15 spots on the Raptors’ roster:

i.e. Shawn Marion/#3, Andrea Bargnani/#4, Anthony Parker/#5, Joey Graham/#6, Kris Humphries/#7, Jason Kapono/#8, Roko Ukic/#9, Pops Mensah-Bonsu/#10, Quincy Douby/#11, Jake Voskuhl/#12, Patrick O’Brant/#13 and Nathan Jawai/#14

there is little chance this team will make serious headway in the Eastern Conference next season. 

Using the 4th place Atlanta Hawks, as one comparative example:

1. While Chris Bosh [C] can hold his own against other up-and-coming young players like Al Horford [C] or Josh Smith [PF], Andrea Bargnani [C] cannot; and, is simply out-classed by either of these two players.

2. While Jose Calderon [PG] can hold his own against a solid veteran like Mike Bibby [PG], Shawn Marion [SF] cannot stay with a multi-dimensional, dynamic Wing player like Joe Johnson [SF/OG/PG].

3. While Joey Graham has made a significant jump this season … i.e. from a seldom-used after-thought to a serviceable Wing player … he is simply not as good as Maurice Evans [OG/SF], nor as consistent.

4. While Jason Kapono is one of the best stand-still “catch & shoot” artists in the NBA, he is simply not as versatile a Back-up Guard/Forward as a Flip Murray, who can capably fill in for the Hawks, as an under-sized OG and an emergency PG.

5. While Kris Humphries is a solid Back-up Big Man, he is simply not as good as Zaza Pachulia.

6. While Roko Ukic has the make-up of a solid Point Guard, in the NBA, he is not a superior player to Acie Law, at this position.

7. While Pops Mensah-Bonsu certainly brings some badly needed energy and NBA athleticism to the Raptors, he is simply not in the same class of serviceable Back-up Big Man as a versatile player like Solomon Jones [who was a DNP in last night's game but can capably fill-in for the Hawks at both C and PF].

Most of which was on full display in last night’s game.

FINAL SCORE: RAPTORS 110, Hawks 118
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7 Responses to “Comparing the Raptors to the Hawks”

  1. verbatim Says:

    re: Bargnani
    His issues exist on the defensive end. From what I see, the issues are knowing how and when to switch on D, and not any lack of athleticism or ability to defend individually. I believe, therefore, that WITH PROPER DEFENSIVE COACHING Bosh and Bargnani could be far more potent than they currently are, before they will be able to score, Bosh will be hitting the glass and should hold their own defensively.

    re: Marion
    His movement without the ball is a refreshing change from the status quo from our other wing players. On a REASONABLE contract, I hope he comes fairly cheap, he is a good player, provided the Raptors can find a suitable starter at the #2 who can handle the ball and score. In an ideal, world, such a player, who would compliment Marion would be someone like Joe Johnson, whose skills were on full display the other nite.

    I acknowledge our deficiencies on defense. Largely it is a problem, I believe in the pick and roll defense. This is a matter of proper defensive sets, not individual skill, in this case.

  2. Raps Fan Says:

    khandor, how did you come up with your efficiency rating? looks interesting!

  3. khandor Says:

    Raps Fan,

    It’s a simple metric which works like this:

    [[Points + Rebounds + Assists + Steals + Blocks] – [[Field Goals Att. - Field Goals Made] + [Free Throws Att. - Free Throws Made] + Personal Fouls + Turnovers]], in order of MP

    and is far too “uncomplicated” to satisfy the specific needs of different “new-age stats gurus” who spend their time trying to explain exactly how the game works based on numerical machinations of all sorts.

    In my book … it provides nothing more than a rudimentary understanding of the “basic” contributions which a player makes to his team, in a given game, relative to the other participants.

    It’s a useful starting point; that’s all.

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    PS. What’s more meaningful, IMO, is the array of OTHER measurements which I factor into the equation when evaluating a player’s actual contribution to his team’s performance in a specific game that I get to see on videotape. Those are the things that do not show up in “regular” stats sheets but make the world of difference when assessing accurately which players can really play and which ones cannot.

  4. khandor Says:

    verbatim,

    Andrea Bargnani’s most glaring deficiencies are on the defensive end of the floor … but this does not mean that his offensive game is problem-free.

    The same thing applies to his rebounding.

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    The harsh, cold fact is that Bargnani is a perimeter-based Scoring Big:

    whose strengths include his [i] long distance 3PT-shooting and his [ii] straight line perimeter drives to the basket

    but …

    who is still without a well-developed post-up game on the block

    who is still without a well-developed face-up game on the block

    who is slow in his defensive ransition

    who is an inconsistent rebounder

    who is an inconsistent shooter

    who lacks lateral agility

    who is a poor defender

    who fouls a lot.

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    Can Bargnani continue to improve as his pro career develops further?

    Yes, he can.

    Will Bargnani improve enough … at the position he plays best … to be considered one of the best players in the league during the next few years?

    No, he will not.

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    Perimeter-based Scoring Bigs are simply not THAT valuable in the NBA game.

  5. khandor Says:

    verbatim,

    re: Shawn Marion

    IMO, you’ve got the order in reverse.

    Shawn Marion would be a good complementary player to Joe Johnson … not the other way around … and, it’s not just a matter of semantics. :-)

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    IMO, there is no valid reason for a player like Joe Johnson to forego other very attractive playing opportunities in order to become a Toronto Raptor, as a Free Agent.

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    If the Raptors are going to find a youngish dynamic scoring Wing player to augment the skills and leadership of Chris Bosh and Jose Calderon they will NEED to acquire him in the NBA Draft … as they once did with one Vincent Lamar Carter.

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